[searstower]

@bill

I actually agree with Bill's first post. The 'universe is one and we all are god' idea sits better with me.

I will admit that I don't really see any logic that could prove that this is how the world works, and I can see how logic, actually, is on the side of subjective realists. After all, any evidence or feelings or "but then...?" questions could all be answered by saying, "Well, you wanted to see the world that way, so that's how you created it."

It's funny, because I do think subjective reality is real and common, I just don't see it as being the be all, end all about how the world works.

In my opinion, we live in a subjective reality but at the level of consciousness, not at the level of the creation of the entire world.

If our own subjective reality was all there was, and we realized that, wouldn't that feel kind of pointless? "Ok, so I just made up the last 24 years of my life. What do I want to make up about the next 40?" Where's the challenge and fulfillment there? How can you find happiness if you believe in subjective reality?

Also, why would you assume that the soul is outside the realm of space and time? If it was outside the realm of time, it would mean that it is in eternal time. If it was in eternal time, it would mean that our soul is God. If our soul is God, then it wouldn't need to experience anything on earth because it already experienced everything in all of time.

We don't need to experience anything on earth, we choose to experience it. I believe we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, and we choose to have these experiences because it helps us understand ourselves better and evolve more.

This may be too woo woo for some people, but I believe that before we come to earth as humans, we are given a mission to complete and we choose certain aspects and experiences of our life. We choose the family we will be born into. We choose the country, the timeperiod, and many of the major events in our life.

We all come here with a purpose. Whether that mission is to be hurt so that we can know love better, to spread our light to foreign lands or to give others the opportunity to help us, it's up to each individual to figure out and to pursue.

The only thing I don't quite agree on with you is that the girl experienced the rape in your example for the purpose of feeling what it would feel like to experience that process, kind of like choosing a new candybar you haven't tried yet just for fun. I think it's more probable that the girl attracted the event unconsiously.

How can you open yourself up to be truly loved when you know no fear or hurt?

In my view of the world, souls who choose missions like this deserve massive respect. Because there is really no separation, whatever lessons they learn help the rest of us. And because consciousness is omnipotent, that soul knew what they were getting into. They saw how it ended, how lonely and hurt they would be, and did it anyway.

And I'm describing them as separate to facilitate understanding of my point, but since 'they' really are 'we', 'we' deserve massive respect.



Anyhow, I thought I'd put this out there in case it helps anyone else on their quest. I believe these things simply because it makes me feel better. Open discussion is, of course, encouraged, but if anyone wants to flame or troll, too bad.

Radiant Rebecca