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Originally Posted by Michael Chui  What an interesting perspective: when trying to help someone, it is irrelevant as to whether or not you actually help them? And so, when doing this deed, you are merely evaluating how it turns out, with no concern for the actual results? |
I said nothing of the sort -- that's a very reactive and innacurate interpretation of what I said. You are talking about Trying TO; I am (and I think radeldudel was) talking about something that didn't have an "in order to" attached to it -- like tasting. It does not mean that I'm cavalier or uncaring about the person I try helping. For example, you are in a wheelchair, struggling to go uphill. I ask you, "May I help?" Whatever your answer, whether I help you or don't, there is no "success" or "failure" involved for me. Or, you post a thread bemoaning your lack of success with women. I post back offering some suggestion I think it might be valuable for you to consider. Whatever you do with that -- take my suggestion, ignore it, scoff at it, whatever -- success and failure are not involved for me, regardless of the fact that I hope for you to be satisfied and fulfilled in your relationships with women.