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Originally Posted by dor

but anyway, I found a lot of interesting stuff and time honored approaches to celebicy which probably include creating an aversion to women -though I would hate to think what this might lead to

There's an ample history of what it leads to; at a minimum, serious gender inequality and limited opportunity for women. At worst, killings (contemporary examples can be found in the form of 'honor killings'; slightly more historically, another example is the tradition of burning a dead man's widow in India).

Originally Posted by dor

It find it interesting that for example, Buddism gets such soft treatment from the media in the US (Compared to catholicism which is bashed ) and the Dali Lama shares similar views about homosexuality, it would appear.

The Dali Lama believes in celibacy for priests, and that homosexuality is ok for lay people. Buddhism as a whole has a much more variable and fluid view on homosexuality. Homosexuality and Buddhism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect, from having read quite a bit of the US media, although I don't have numbers to back it up, that Catholicism gets quite a lot more press than Buddhism, both positively and negatively; neither gets a free ride. I do think there's quite a bit more "Catholic bashing", although this seems to mainly come from the direction of the Protestants; this follows the general trend of having two different, and fairly close, branches of a religion sometimes display hostility towards each other.

Originally Posted by dor

I think its bad unlesss you are specifically super spirtual - eg a monk - to feel bad about sex,

In my opinion, each person should consciously choose their ethical and moral code, including in this area, and do their best to live according to it. I also think it's possible to be highly spiritual and sexual; the much-discussed "left hand paths" come to mind. Feeling bad about sex is a waste of energy, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by dor

on the other hand, completely forgotten in current society , there is such thing as being oversexed...its almost like modesty and restraint are the only vices according to mass media.

Are they vices according to the mass media? I've seen this claim many times, and yet, essentially no evidence. This strikes me as primarily propaganda.
There are certainly voices in the mass media which call any number of other things vices.

Originally Posted by dor

one of the hallmarks of a declining society is 'decadence"

In the sense that the majority of the society's resources go into extremely elaborate court etiquette, coliseum games so brutal and frequent that several species of animals go extinct and that humans fight to the death, etc, sure.

Conversely, the societies I'm aware of which are/were frequently considered successful allowed a certain amount of liberty, rather than pure repression, including sexually; Athens and Sparta allowed homosexuality (albeit framed somewhat differently than in the USA at present, but that's a long tangent), and both housed quite a few people who wrote that male/male pairings were the highest form; in Sparta women also had a fair amount of freedom. Japan and China have had quite advanced societies relative to most of the rest of the world throughout much of the last few thousand years, especially China; some similar statements apply.

Repression is a hallmark of societies which aren't functioning well. Finding internal enemies for witch-hunts or scapegoating, or prescribing a moral code, to be enforced on all citizens who aren't extremely politically well-connected, is far from unknown, but I'm unaware of a single society in which this is widespread that I'd consider highly successful at the times in its history where this has occurred. The canonical example in recent American history would, I suppose, have been the USSR; if I go further back, I'll have invoked Godwin's law on the discussion.