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Old 01-09-2010, 01:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rei View Post
i have back issues, and once every couple of months i take valium for them. the experience of just not caring as much about the pain you're feeling is something i can draw on myself, which is why i mentioned it. your own experiences are obviously different, but of course i'd imagine almost nothing can soften your pain experience if you have tolerance from oxy. perhaps that is where your perspective is coming from here?

i will give you that, i'm sure if your chemical and psychological system is used to the experiences that are triggered with oxy, benzos will seem useless. luckily, as far as i can tell, Sandra is not on an oxy regimen, so that could be an option for her.

my understanding is that opiates flood your brain with signals, overloading your pain receptors to produce endorphins - i believe that's why they are called antagonists, because they 'antagonize' your brain into producing endorphins. it is a physical level way of dealing with pain, but i suppose if you have tolerance or use them in some habit-forming way it becomes psychological.


Oh well if they work on your back pain I guess they can help with pain.
I did have a high oxy tolerance for a while because I was an addict but what I meant was the benzos didn't seem to help my withdrawl pain when I occasionally faced that sitch.


OP's do almos pretty much what you said. They enter opiate receptors in your brain which causes a release of all our natural pain killers, happy drugs, all the dorphins and cause a big bliss.

But they're called "Agonists". Antagonists block the opiate receptors and do not allow the oxy, heroin (diacetyl morphine) or whatever opiate to bind to the receptors. Naltrexone is an antagonist and it actually rips out opiates off the receptors. Good for overdose patients. Ambulances carry it. My drawer carries it.
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