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Conan Stevens · 03-08-2007, 03:11 PM

Shant121: "and even as vegan you can eat unhealthy food."

The point of my article is that if you are Vegan you are much more likely to be unhealthy. Seems like a lot of people, yourself included think that Vegan is healthy with no understanding of a correctly balanced diet.

Escapee: "if you are a strict vegans and you're planning to raise your children with the same strict diet, I would be hesistate to say the same thing."

Now I live in SE Asia I can see the effects of protein deficiency on children, it is especially prevalent in the generation that fled Pol Pot and his regime in Cambodia. The refugees had to start new lives with nothing, they had t osell what little meat they could catch for money to buy essentials and lived on a diet of rice and soy sauce often - as a result most of these people are lucky to be 5 feet tall, yet their children are much larger and it is common knowledge that this is due to the increased meat consumption. As a result I would rephrase your warning to be much stronger.

Narz: "It's pretty easy to cover all your bases as a vegetarian."

Actually it is pretty easy to have 20" biceps too - if you have the knowledge. Most people do not have the knowledge.

M0vingon: "you NEVER have the urge to hit the Burger King drive through again!"

I never have the urge to eat any junk foods - it is called will power and following my dream

jennygoldenator: "Conan: before you get up on your negative judgemental soapbox about vegetarians, I want to know what is in your pantry bro: Oreos? chips? Hhhmm aren't we healthy?"

How wrong you are. Yes I am healthy. I eat predominantly natural foods, unprocessed, or with slight processing. White rice is the worst thing I eat. Here let me prove it,

This is a photo from last week in the gym taken for a book on health, fitness and diet that I am writting. Do you think I eat Oreos?

Maybe I am somewhat qualified to talk about diet, fitness and health in general. It might also be relevant to add that I have competed at State level in 5 different sports and was a Pro-Athlete in Australia. I currently work as an Stunt Actor in Asia. My look and physique are my livlihood - I know all about it

ferociousgoals: "to become problematically fat AND thin"

Yes. It is possible to be thin and have a abnormally high body fat composition. My friends and I all them Fat Skinnies. They often think they are healthy because they are thin, but are amongst the most unhealthy group around (often seen in aspiring models) they suffer deficiencies that normal fat people do not have.

wolfgang

Yes but how many people know that they should combine their meals correctly at each eating session?

To everyone else - this is an exert from a full article (pop over and read it if you like). That one girl is not my entire experience with vegetarians, she was just a prime example that stuck out.

My point is that everyone who considers themselves "healthy" because they do not eat meat should think again - preferrably about thier education.

I myself have close experience with the Hari Krishnas (no meat, no eggs, no fish) and several friends who are professional Martial Artists who are vegetarian. The difference is they know what they are doing and take their health seriously (hence thier inclusion of exercise in their daily routine).

I do fast and I fast on fruit diets from time to time. I also eat a ton of natural carbs and little to no refined carbs. My system is clean of rotting animal meats as I eat on average 2 cups of uncooked oats a day + fruit and other good fibres to scrub my insides clean.

I am not saying meat eaters are healthy. Processed meats are some of the most harmful products around today (right up there with processed wheat and processed milk)

I hate processed foods, my diet is a natural food diet.

I have studied foods more indepth than nearly every dietician I have ever met and I have experimented on myself (the 100% meat diet definitely gave bad results) for over 20 years - why? Because my future success depends on me getting it right.

I want to be the World's Biggest Action Movie Star so I had better look like it.

03-08-2007, 03:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
Conan Stevens Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: I travel around the world - currently Thailand Posts: 141	Shant121: "and even as vegan you can eat unhealthy food." The point of my article is that if you are Vegan you are much more likely to be unhealthy. Seems like a lot of people, yourself included think that Vegan is healthy with no understanding of a correctly balanced diet. Escapee: "if you are a strict vegans and you're planning to raise your children with the same strict diet, I would be hesistate to say the same thing." Now I live in SE Asia I can see the effects of protein deficiency on children, it is especially prevalent in the generation that fled Pol Pot and his regime in Cambodia. The refugees had to start new lives with nothing, they had t osell what little meat they could catch for money to buy essentials and lived on a diet of rice and soy sauce often - as a result most of these people are lucky to be 5 feet tall, yet their children are much larger and it is common knowledge that this is due to the increased meat consumption. As a result I would rephrase your warning to be much stronger. Narz: "It's pretty easy to cover all your bases as a vegetarian." Actually it is pretty easy to have 20" biceps too - if you have the knowledge. Most people do not have the knowledge. M0vingon: "you NEVER have the urge to hit the Burger King drive through again!" I never have the urge to eat any junk foods - it is called will power and following my dream jennygoldenator: "Conan: before you get up on your negative judgemental soapbox about vegetarians, I want to know what is in your pantry bro: Oreos? chips? Hhhmm aren't we healthy?" How wrong you are. Yes I am healthy. I eat predominantly natural foods, unprocessed, or with slight processing. White rice is the worst thing I eat. Here let me prove it, This is a photo from last week in the gym taken for a book on health, fitness and diet that I am writting. Do you think I eat Oreos? Maybe I am somewhat qualified to talk about diet, fitness and health in general. It might also be relevant to add that I have competed at State level in 5 different sports and was a Pro-Athlete in Australia. I currently work as an Stunt Actor in Asia. My look and physique are my livlihood - I know all about it ferociousgoals: "to become problematically fat AND thin" Yes. It is possible to be thin and have a abnormally high body fat composition. My friends and I all them Fat Skinnies. They often think they are healthy because they are thin, but are amongst the most unhealthy group around (often seen in aspiring models) they suffer deficiencies that normal fat people do not have. wolfgang Yes but how many people know that they should combine their meals correctly at each eating session? To everyone else - this is an exert from a full article (pop over and read it if you like). That one girl is not my entire experience with vegetarians, she was just a prime example that stuck out. My point is that everyone who considers themselves "healthy" because they do not eat meat should think again - preferrably about thier education. I myself have close experience with the Hari Krishnas (no meat, no eggs, no fish) and several friends who are professional Martial Artists who are vegetarian. The difference is they know what they are doing and take their health seriously (hence thier inclusion of exercise in their daily routine). I do fast and I fast on fruit diets from time to time. I also eat a ton of natural carbs and little to no refined carbs. My system is clean of rotting animal meats as I eat on average 2 cups of uncooked oats a day + fruit and other good fibres to scrub my insides clean. I am not saying meat eaters are healthy. Processed meats are some of the most harmful products around today (right up there with processed wheat and processed milk) I hate processed foods, my diet is a natural food diet. I have studied foods more indepth than nearly every dietician I have ever met and I have experimented on myself (the 100% meat diet definitely gave bad results) for over 20 years - why? Because my future success depends on me getting it right. I want to be the World's Biggest Action Movie Star so I had better look like it. __________________ I AM A MOVIE STAR with my ideal perfect body - Read how I am living my DREAM 100% right now, and the struggles and adaption it took to get here