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Originally Posted by Vicariously Yours  The point is clear: we all choose our experiences, and all of our experiences have divine value. Period. From the supposed beginning of our lives until the very (supposed) end. Which means that, yes, the Jews did ask for (and receive) the Holocaust. I was tempted to say, sorry about that, but I am not. Read the Abraham-Hicks material (or the Seth material, or Conversations with God, or any of hundreds of other texts on the subject), and it will tell you that we all have set the circumstances of our own deaths. Shall we be sorry for that? Rape victims (and I can, in a fashion, include myself in this category, so I know of which I speak) did ask for (and receive) their rapes. Starving children asked for (and received) their god-awful conditions (are we really so naive as to believe that the infant is just some mindless thing without a guiding "higher self" who knows, in glorious detail, everything that's going on?) And Bill Gates asked for (and received) his billions of dollars. I'm sorry that some (if not most) people can't or won't accept this. They prefer to relinquish their responsibilities and blame others whom they perceive as outside their control. It's simpler that way, I guess, just floating along, experiencing "by default" rather than with conscious intent.
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Well, if it is as clear as all that, then it must be so. Silly me for having doubts. It is, after all, crystal clear.
Look, it is clear TO YOU. This is YOUR truth. It isn't mine. If it works for you, cool. It doesn't work for me. And oddly enough, I happen to think there is some middle ground between "holocaust victims brought that on themselves" and "relinquishing all of my responsibilities and blaming others". You know, you can relinquish SOME things. Like natural disasters. Just what do you think caused the cataclysmic natural events which occurred on this planet before there was life here?? Who manifested THAT?