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Old 12-21-2009, 11:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
Mynder
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Originally Posted by AuspiciousEight View Post
Yes - I recognize that I have a choice here. I could blindly believe something that may or may not be true just for the sake of my own happiness. But, quite frankly, I don't get my jollies from deluding myself...
But when there is no way to be 100% sure of something, ANY deduction you make COULD be delusion and self-deceit.

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Actually - the fact that you are trying to help is more beneficial than the actual words that you are using.
You're very welcome. And it's always fun to learn along the way, too!

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And, yes, I do rationalize things a lot. In the Steve Pavlina paradigm of the world, I am a hard core Truth addict...
So, what is the truth? When you have establised that, with the means you have available, you cannot rationally PROVE or DISPROVE either possibility, on what basis can you decide?

Yes, I know, this is exactly your dilemma. Some things cannot (by definition) be known to us, because we have no way of understanding them completely in our glorious but limited state of existence.

Nothing I say will deliver any logical arguments to you that would allow you to irrefutably prove either alternative. There are some things I think we cannot logically understand, because we have neither all the facts nor the faculties to absorb them were they available.

I guess your answer is to go deep inside and just toss out reason, toss out the mind, stop the chitchat of thoughts and just FEEL.

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Actually, I have quite a bit of experience...with NDE's, astral projection, lucid dreaming, telepathy, telekinesis, and meditating until I drift into eternal bliss and lose all feelings of time, space, and self. My entire life thus far has revolved around the seeking of truth. Logically, I can conclude that there is an extremely high probability that God is real, as well as a slew of other things...

But in the case of the Source of life itself and the possibility of absolute death - I require certainty.
Why? What would be the worst that could happen, and what would be your current implications from that?

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Thank you for your thoughts and intention Mynder....I think this barrier is too difficult for me to cross over by myself...
Well, if it helps, I'm game!
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