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Aaron · 03-04-2007, 08:07 PM

"Have you done studies that show the effects of PATHS is more than just the placebo effect? The placebo effect could be responsible for increasing the power of the subconscious transmissions into the collective unconscious per your diagram, not PATHS.

If PATHS is the reason, not placebo, than it appears your system and business model aren't tapping into the full potential of this technology. If you have studies that show it isn't the placebo effect, than private message me."

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Yes Pagoda, the skin darkening results were on women who didn't know what they were supposed to expect from staring at a black screen. Ruling out placebo 100%. We have done this with other things as well.

People's belief will back everything they do no matter what medicine, modality, etc... nothing available can separate a user's expectation or belief from their experience with any modality, not even PATHS. With the above skin darkening results ruling out any placebo, when people do know what they are supposed to get from PATHS, it helps of course...can't do anything about that...there is nothing immune from this.

With belief, if someone is very, very skeptical and trying to prove it doesn't work while trying it, they will say anything they want regardless of if there are results or not. We have seen a few of these people even though if they are on mood elevator or something, their friends and family comment on how they are having improvements in mood, etc... we can't satisfy everyone and there will always be skeptics who bring their skepticism with them meaning it had nothing to do with the technology. It was there to begin with meaning their perception filter is already skewed against seeing anything else. We have our share of converted skeptics.

On the placebo again, the women did not know what was supposed to happen by looking at a black screen...no placebo.

Also, a 4-year-old girl with type 1 diabetes. Not knowing what in the world she is supposed to be looking at or what it is even for. Before paths, the blood sugar was below 150 only 20% of the time. 1 week with paths, 39% of the time! That is 200% increase below the 150 mark...that is not only statistically significant...that is mind blowing....before paths the average time under 110 was 10%...after 1 week on paths, under 110, 29% of the time...that is 290% increase in time under 110. THREE TIMES.

There is nobody that can show me these results with placebo or non-placebo in a safe, no side effect, intervention free way.

Anyway, this diabetic module will be available in the near future for the public. To let you all know diabetes cure is already known. It isn't an autoimmune disorder...it is the nerve endings surrounding the beta cells in the pancreas....the nerve endings are NOT properly secreting substance P neurotransmitter telling the brain there is something wrong there. Injecting substance P into the pancreas CURES diabetes. It kicks in normal function virtually overnight.

Anyway, the subconscious mind can simply be told to help increase the secretion of substance P at the nerve endings surrounding the beta cells. That is a small but very significant part of this diabetes module. So, now you know how to cure diabetes with conventional medicine...the injection...

or, with no intervention, 3 minutes per week by utilizing the power of the subconscious mind in a way that has never been done until now.

I will say that if anyone has diabetes, they should get a picture of a cross section of some pancreas, memorize what a healthy one looks like and start visualizing substance P being secreted from the nerve endings. Not as effective as paths, but if anyone has diabetes, they should use what they got! Their mind!

I'm NOT saying that paths will cure diabetes, I AM saying we are applying the real knowledge of what causes the beta cells to properly produce insulin and how to cause the uptake to normalize and putting it in the paths technology as described. And it is working for almost everyone so far. A small percentage are not getting good results, just a very slight improvement, and I do not know if there is anyone with zero difference.

There was even a study in Toronto I think proving this. They injected substance p into diabetic mice pancreas and it CURED them overnight. 4-5 months later, one injection, they still were 100% free of diabetes. That is about 5-7 years in human time. We are not claiming this will last that long but we do know it helps them normalize blood/sugar.

Anyway, the cause is not placebo but a person's belief can and probably will help the technology work better..more accepting. That applies to massage, eft, etc... everything else under the sun.

Take care,
Aaron

03-04-2007, 08:07 PM	#76 (permalink)
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 136	Hi Pagoda, on placebo "Have you done studies that show the effects of PATHS is more than just the placebo effect? The placebo effect could be responsible for increasing the power of the subconscious transmissions into the collective unconscious per your diagram, not PATHS. If PATHS is the reason, not placebo, than it appears your system and business model aren't tapping into the full potential of this technology. If you have studies that show it isn't the placebo effect, than private message me." ----------- Yes Pagoda, the skin darkening results were on women who didn't know what they were supposed to expect from staring at a black screen. Ruling out placebo 100%. We have done this with other things as well. People's belief will back everything they do no matter what medicine, modality, etc... nothing available can separate a user's expectation or belief from their experience with any modality, not even PATHS. With the above skin darkening results ruling out any placebo, when people do know what they are supposed to get from PATHS, it helps of course...can't do anything about that...there is nothing immune from this. With belief, if someone is very, very skeptical and trying to prove it doesn't work while trying it, they will say anything they want regardless of if there are results or not. We have seen a few of these people even though if they are on mood elevator or something, their friends and family comment on how they are having improvements in mood, etc... we can't satisfy everyone and there will always be skeptics who bring their skepticism with them meaning it had nothing to do with the technology. It was there to begin with meaning their perception filter is already skewed against seeing anything else. We have our share of converted skeptics. On the placebo again, the women did not know what was supposed to happen by looking at a black screen...no placebo. Also, a 4-year-old girl with type 1 diabetes. Not knowing what in the world she is supposed to be looking at or what it is even for. Before paths, the blood sugar was below 150 only 20% of the time. 1 week with paths, 39% of the time! That is 200% increase below the 150 mark...that is not only statistically significant...that is mind blowing....before paths the average time under 110 was 10%...after 1 week on paths, under 110, 29% of the time...that is 290% increase in time under 110. THREE TIMES. There is nobody that can show me these results with placebo or non-placebo in a safe, no side effect, intervention free way. Anyway, this diabetic module will be available in the near future for the public. To let you all know diabetes cure is already known. It isn't an autoimmune disorder...it is the nerve endings surrounding the beta cells in the pancreas....the nerve endings are NOT properly secreting substance P neurotransmitter telling the brain there is something wrong there. Injecting substance P into the pancreas CURES diabetes. It kicks in normal function virtually overnight. Anyway, the subconscious mind can simply be told to help increase the secretion of substance P at the nerve endings surrounding the beta cells. That is a small but very significant part of this diabetes module. So, now you know how to cure diabetes with conventional medicine...the injection... or, with no intervention, 3 minutes per week by utilizing the power of the subconscious mind in a way that has never been done until now. I will say that if anyone has diabetes, they should get a picture of a cross section of some pancreas, memorize what a healthy one looks like and start visualizing substance P being secreted from the nerve endings. Not as effective as paths, but if anyone has diabetes, they should use what they got! Their mind! I'm NOT saying that paths will cure diabetes, I AM saying we are applying the real knowledge of what causes the beta cells to properly produce insulin and how to cause the uptake to normalize and putting it in the paths technology as described. And it is working for almost everyone so far. A small percentage are not getting good results, just a very slight improvement, and I do not know if there is anyone with zero difference. There was even a study in Toronto I think proving this. They injected substance p into diabetic mice pancreas and it CURED them overnight. 4-5 months later, one injection, they still were 100% free of diabetes. That is about 5-7 years in human time. We are not claiming this will last that long but we do know it helps them normalize blood/sugar. Anyway, the cause is not placebo but a person's belief can and probably will help the technology work better..more accepting. That applies to massage, eft, etc... everything else under the sun. Take care, Aaron