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Old 12-21-2009, 01:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
AuspiciousEight
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Ah, but don't you realize that you have a choice here? You have the choice to believe in whatever you wish.
Yes - I recognize that I have a choice here. I could blindly believe something that may or may not be true just for the sake of my own happiness. But, quite frankly, I don't get my jollies from deluding myself...

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So, you're afraid of going into the "big nothing", just dying and withering away, atoms scattered by the wind across the countryside (or rotting underground and eaten by bacteria and maggots). Sure, you will still be "around" in one form or other (your atoms are, after all), but I assume you are afraid of losing your conscious personality, right?
No - I'm not afraid of bodily death. Or the death of my personality. I'm afraid of the end of life itself, or the end of existence, if that makes any sense. Existence vs non-existence. It is a certain type of fear that many people never experience.

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Anyhow, I just thought that this might not help you at all, because you're so afraid of this never happening. You seem to rationalize things a lot, judging from your claim of having "everything else already figured out".
Actually - the fact that you are trying to help is more beneficial than the actual words that you are using.

And, yes, I do rationalize things a lot. In the Steve Pavlina paradigm of the world, I am a hard core Truth addict...

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Basically, unless you have some experience about the afterlife as others have, you just pick what you wish to believe in. If you can't do that...maybe you don't really believe in it, after all. Go learn about other beliefs, and find something that simply "feels right", something where your gut tells you "this is it, this is what I've been looking for".
Actually, I have quite a bit of experience...with NDE's, astral projection, lucid dreaming, telepathy, telekinesis, and meditating until I drift into eternal bliss and lose all feelings of time, space, and self. My entire life thus far has revolved around the seeking of truth. Logically, I can conclude that there is an extremely high probability that God is real, as well as a slew of other things...

But in the case of the Source of life itself and the possibility of absolute death - I require certainty.

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Thank you for your thoughts and intention Mynder....I think this barrier is too difficult for me to cross over by myself...
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