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Old 03-01-2007, 10:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by john6630 View Post
...But here is the rub for me...if ALL is from my consciousness...if the "out there" is really "in here"...then how can there be a Universe out there from which I am attacting my reality? How can I be attracting that which I have already created? I seems totally inconsistent.

Shindra gave a great response to your question. It can be crazy making, I think, if we are trying to understand it from the objective perspective. But from the subjective perspective there is no "out there" at all. So you'd be attracting yoru reality from within as well. This then gets projected "outside" (think holographic movie projector) as a very convincing, 3-D surround sound stereo reality called this is your life.

What I sense is that I do have a Subjective Reality that co-exists with all other Subjective Realities in a larger Objective Reality. I can answer the paradoxes Steve raises in several ways. The one about two intentions competing for the same result...well I do belive the Universe is capable of supporting competition...why can't the stronger intention win...survival of the fittest....Any comments?

John
Steve addresses these basic questions very directly. He says:

"One way of thinking about subjective reality is like a holodeck from Star Trek. But that’s a model I’d like to move away from because I’m finding most people are thinking about it too objectively, as if the holodeck still exists in an objective universe somewhere “out there.” This would be the world of The Matrix movies, but that is not subjective reality. In that case you’re just having a simulated subjective experience within a larger objective framework. In those movies you still have an outside objective universe that is real. So this isn’t the model we want to use.

In a truly subjective universe, there is nothing outside your own consciousness — no world, no bodies, no brain..."


That is from this blog post:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ve-reality-qa/


The he says this:

"If I have my own subjective reality and you have yours, then how do they mesh?

There is only one subjective reality, and it’s yours. What you perceive as my subjective reality is merely a projection of your own thoughts. So there is no meshing between our realities because yours is the only one there is.

If reality is created by thought, then what happens when you and I have conflicting thoughts?

You and I cannot have conflicting thoughts because only you have thoughts. I do not have thoughts, nor does anyone else in your reality. You are the only thinker there is. Everything else is a manifestation of your thoughts, including the perception that other people have thoughts (to the degree that this is congruent with your beliefs).

The only thoughts you perceive are your own. You may assume those thoughts are coming from your body (they aren’t) and that all the other people you see have bodies that produce thoughts you can’t perceive (they don’t).

Your body is a projection of your thoughts, just like everything else you’ve manifested. Thought manifests bodies, not the other way around. Nothing has any power in your reality except thought itself. Nothing..."


That is from this blog post:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...-reality-qa-3/


We each just have to decide what concepts about the nature of the construction of the universe feel best to us, which ones resonate for us as truth. No one else can decide that for us. And it can change and evolve as we learn and experience more. Kind of a fascinating journey.
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