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Old 11-30-2009, 03:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
Andrew Gubb
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But I think anyone who polarizes has to be willing to claim authority over oneself even if they submit to a higher power or the collective good.
Yes - I agree. And I believe we all end up serving - I serve God, while you might serve others in order to serve yourself, but you'll still often serve others. But our personal authority is so important.

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If someone polarizes in accordance with oneness, their definition of love becomes inseparable from it and every other major change aligns with that.
Yes - though I'm curious what you think love for others could be if it has nothing to do with oneness. Those articles on selfish love - I don't get it, do you express love? Are you kind to people simply because it feels good to do so?

I do see that there is a way of calling love "selfish". I love because it feels right to do so - not because anyone tells me to. I love for me, not for others. Or maybe I just love, just because it's what I was made to do. But I do know that if I didn't express this, life would seem utterly pointless. I'd probably kill myself. So yeah, love is sort of "selfish" for me, in a way.

But somehow I don't see a darkworker loving in this way.

I remember hearing about Alestair Crowley a bit. What do you think about him? He talked about love a lot, but in the end he inspired some of the most depraved practises. I don't see him as really loving. I think he talked about love because he wanted to exalt himself with high-sounding philosophy. I wonder if that's what's going on with you too. I don't mean to insult you, it's just what seems to fit. What IS love for you? How do you relate to another person?

By the way, I don't doubt you anymore, you seem to be quite coherent despite that one thing I don't get yet. The meditation, I checked it out and then a friend talked to me, and I seemed to be in a sort of trance and what he said to me - it wasn't anything special, something like if I wanted a cup of tea - I felt like what he was saying was making fun of me subtly in a very cruel way. I had to make a prayer and meditate a bit for it to pass. You like this energy?
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