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Originally Posted by Frans

I think you made the same error as many people who try to believe in subjective reality, while they cannot accept that in reality, there are no others.
There is no "we", there is only "I".

Here's a thought experiment to illustrate this:

I close my eyes and think everything away (including my own body).
Is everything gone? No, my "I" (the entity that performs this experiment) is still there. This is the only "thing" that I cannot let disappear.

There is no "we", there is only "I".
Don't try to find an explanation for the existence of other minds, find an explanation for this "I".

Frans,

I see a little problem in your thought experiment...

In your "thinking everything away – including your body," unless you've managed to step in front of a speeding Mack truck while – "thinking your body away" – you have merely hidden from your body within the "subjective realm" of your own mind.

You do not possess the power over the essence that forms your body in any such way that would allow you to literally "think it away." Because eventually, the following will occur...

Body: "Hey Frans, I need to go to the bathroom!"

Frans: "Not now, I've thought you away."

Body: "Oh yeah, well see if you can think away the unfortunate underwear you're about to be wearing!"

Frans: "Alright already."

Body: "And make me a sandwich, I'm hungry!"

Joking aside, your body is inextricably united to the interpenetrating "oneness" of the holographic-like informational field that forms the underpinning of the hundred billion galaxies within the bubble below.



And you can no more "think your body away" than you can "think" the sun into changing its position in space, or the earth into changing its rotational speed, etc., etc..

The "I" of which you speak (the "I" forming the core of your personal bubble of consciousness) has absolutely no "direct" connection to the quantum essence forming the holography of your body or anything else in the universe. It only has a direct connection to the holography forming the interior of your own mind.

So you can "think away" things in your own mind to your heart's content until arriving at that "I" within. However everything else residing on the exterior of your bubble of consciousness continues on, thank you, with or without your participation.

The fundamental error that the hard-core subjective reality believers make is in thinking that the six billion little "i"s flying around on that tiny speck of holography within the bubble above, had something to do with the creation of that bubble. And that is the bane of their philosophy.

And the idea that all of our little "i"s somehow merge together to form one big amalgamated "I" that creates just this one bubble alone...



...is the biggest error of them all – an error that I believe Frans is making in thinking there is no "we".


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