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Originally Posted by goodstyles Isn't there the common case where someone gives and gives and gives that they are satisfying something within themselves where they don't feel comfortable (for whatever reason/conditioning) not doing so. But isn't that actually 'taking'? |
Yes there is! It's called codependent caregiving by some & negative rescuing by others. I am familiar with this because I experienced it myself as a negative rescuer for many years. Actually Steve's posts make so much sense!!
I gave because I had a fear-based motivation. I was afraid I wasn't good enough so as long as I gave gave gave I could avoid facing my fear that I wasn't a good enough person. I attracted fear based people to me who were wiling to participate in my personal drama by taking & taking until I had enough & looked for a real change. If you look up Jung's archetypes they discuss negative rescuers & martyrs. I was guided to that by several counselors & read it & recognized it in myself.
Since my giving wasn't about a love based motivation such as "I give to help those in the world with their suffering" or "I give so that this child may have dinner tonight" my consequences were not ones that a love-based intention would have derived.
Does this make sense? So as long as I gave out of a negative reason to try to satisfy my own insecurities it wasn't really loving. It was actually fear based. Actually I ultimately realized that to be truly loving (this is thanks to several codependency books I read!) I needed allow the takers in my life to experience the consequences of whatever self-destructive actions they were participating in & ultimately participate in "tough love." I did so & it changed my life dramatically. At the time I had no clue how to apply my knowledge of manifestation to my experience of this but now Steve's posting has cleared up my confusion tremendously.
Thank you very much Steve! Your posting has explained some interesting quandaries I had been muddling over recently & I asked the universe to guide me to some answers & they sent me to your post. Specifically I was confused why some people were able to be fear based so heavily yet gain tremendous wealth & power despite opposition from others who recognized their fear based motivations. Now your post has cleared up this question. They are able to manifest their wealth because they are more polarized & conscious. Interesting! I had believed up until this point that "good perseveres & that the universe only rewards those who are good to others" yet there was much factual evidence to suggest that that is not always the case.
I will be looking forward very much to your practical guide on how to apply polarization & I would like more clarification on what the different benefits/consequences of each polarization of fear vs. love. Thanks again!