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Old 02-27-2007, 07:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
Shaden
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Interesting post Glass Joe, but I think I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

What you're talking about here is destroying the ego - removing it from your conscious mind so you have no "negative" or "positive" "leanings" within your daily life. It's a technique espoused very heavily by spiritual speakers such as Eckhart Tolle and the Buddhist religion as a whole. And to a certain degree it works. However, taking it too far destroys the experience of life itself. Why?

Because we percieve through our ego. The mind is the ego, and the mind is the perceptive tool we use to enjoy (or hate) our experiences of life. All five senses are processed through the ego. Even our spiritual beliefs are processed through the ego. And get this - everything you listed above is an egoic principle. It is a theory, not a given. There is no objective proof that shows meditation will give you enlightenment. There are certain individuals claiming that it does, but choosing to believe them is still an egoic process. Without the ego, you wouldn't percieve them, so you couldn't choose whether you should or shouldn't believe them.

The process I prefer, is emotional mastery - wrestling the ego under your control so you gain it's benefits, without suffering from it's drawbacks. The benefits of the ego are that you can percieve reality with your five senses and if you're psychically developed, your psychic senses (I unfortunately am not developed to this point ). The drawbacks are "mind chatter", attachment, emotional confusion, emotional pain and fear.

You can overcome these drawbacks if you are commited enough. I don't care how many spiritual teachers claim that the only way to be free of such egoic drawbacks is too completely destroy it. They may be completely wrong. The only way you can actually understand it for yourself is to "experience" it i.e. to make some practical application of the ideas into your own life. A practical application of the ideas of egoic control (and destruction), would be meditation, journalling, IM and other basic spiritual practises.

I don't agree with egoic destruction personally. Without the ego - what would we percieve the world with? The ego is there to serve it's purpose of allowing us to enjoy the surrounding universe we inhabit - it's a piece of a perfect puzzle. And sure it get's out of hand sometimes - that's it's nature. Carrying on the employment analogy - it's down to you to make sure you keep your ego under control. If your ego is becoming overly-destructive, you don't get rid of it entirely - you sack it and hire another one. That would be like building a new sense of character or changing your values so you believed in different things and acted in a different way. Without the ego, you don't get any results, or rather you don't percieve those results.

I see that as counter-logical and counter-intuitive, especially in the field of personal development. I think it's better to be your own boss, then to intentionally destroy the very business which your running.
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