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Old 02-27-2007, 07:57 AM   #43 (permalink)
Dani
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Originally Posted by JHL View Post
So you're saying we should give in to all our earthly desires until some point we reach some kind of enlightment? Well you'd be mightily gratified to learn that a lot of people in America agree with you! In America right now, approximately 70% of the population is either obese or overweight. Are you now going to argue that being obese is far better for these people than to suffer some inner turmoil by forcing themselves to control their desire for food?



Why? Well because one finds that avoiding temptation leads to healthy body, mind and soul, and, generally, a more pleasant and meaningful existence. So why would I want to "cap myself"?



I think you'll find that the people arguing against LOA tend to be the people who are most supportive of taking ACTION in their lives. And people who take action generally tend to make quite a bit of their lives.

And, in conclusion, a final quote, if I may: "There, but for the Grace of God, go I". This means that if you were born in anyone else's shoes - you would be that person, and you would do no better than they did. Thus do we learn not to judge others - even if we do think they are a "git".
oh touche! I think I hit a sore point.

Actually, to put it back into context, I think you should look for enlignment in areas other than by directly depriving yourself.

Saying enlightenment doesn't come from deprivation doesn't mean I am endorsing excessive consumption. I am endorsing embracing what the world has to give, takign what you need for a fulfilling life and no more, meanwhile contributing to help others live a fulfilling life.

Just because gorging yourself stupid doesn't make you holy, doesn't mean that starving yourself automatically does.

I also think you will find that people who truly understand LoA or at least try to, also promote action.

I have however in my own life had LoA force me into action by taking away from me the things that were stopping me from taking action. e.g. Job, house, car etc.

For your final quote, I know the quote. The git comment was out of line and thanks for pulling me on it. I was a bit cranky at the time I wrote it.

You are right, but just remember it yourself, lest ye start to judge.

If you are so pro-action, please enlighten us all to some of the action you have taken recently towards reducing this terrible materialistic world that you are so uptight about.

If the secret is such bad medicine why aren't you out there making some good medicine for people instead of just yelling at strangers on a forum?
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