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Originally Posted by Anagogy  But consider your own theory of the universe, with its particular physical limits. Is it any different really? If you presume an infinite stretch of time, will not ALL possibilities eventually be explored?
And if they are not explored, you are stuck in a rut of experience anyway right? |
Not necessarily, because when this universe ends, that's the end, it's permanent, and nothing can or will bring it back, in fact, it would probably be considered against the nature of existence to do so. And the possibilities that this universe 'could' have potentially evolved into disappear along with it. Another universe may 'exist', but that is a different story all on its own, unconnected to this one. What does being stuck in a rut of experience mean even?
I sure hope the universe isn't recursive...
I suppose I'm somewhat of a pragmatist/instrumentalist as well, now that I think about it. This means that if and when there comes a time where it becomes 'correct' to throw away what I currently believe and move onto something perhaps a bit more universal, such as your views, then I will do so, or at least hope that I will given the circumstances.
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I still don't see the theory I've presented as deterministic in nature. I still see it as being more free than any other model. Infinity is a big place, it doesn't exactly imply "endedness". All experiences are available. If you can imagine it, it is there (not too mention there are PLENTY we, that is to say human consciousness, can't yet imagine). I don't see that as restrictive in the slightest, actually. 
From my perspective, growth matters very much in my model, not for what the growth will achieve, per se, but for the experience of growth itself -- it is a valuable experience to those who choose to experience it. Our consciousness is ascendant in nature, it ENJOYS growing. Learning is fun. That's why we chose growth experiences, because we enjoy the journey.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on the issue.  |
I'm still not convinced that there is anything to grow for though, because essentially, you're already there, but I suppose with mentioning growing for growth itself, this is somewhat resolved though although still not quite in my eyes. Nonetheless, if it works for you, then it works for you, and that's your decision to make, however you perceive things. It's like all those interpretations of quantum mechanics, being used as they are useful dependent on the context, not necessarily contradicting with what actually is observed. For me, however, the physical model has shown itself to be the only 'reasonable' way to go. ...Upon further research, this may be due to my '
first principles' being slightly different than yours, in which case, agreeing to disagree is likely the only satisfactory course of action... for now.