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Old 11-13-2009, 07:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am not saying it SHOULD. But he was married with two young kids, I'm sure he didn't think "oh boy! yippee let's get a divorce" :-).
Why are you making judgments about what steve should have done.. when you're not him?

Some people would think.. "oh boy! yippee.. this isn't working.. I think we should separate or see other people or be happy in other ways!"

This idea you're talking about is a societal belief that says
- 2 people should stay together forever and be happy (cause that's good for the kids and good for the parents)

If you haven't been paying attention to what's going on out there in the world.. this belief isn't working.. which is why millions of people are finding that out every year..

Now I agree with you on the idea that steve could have stayed married.. let me go a step further.. in another reality.. steve is still happily married.. in this one he's decided not to be that is his reflection her.. I for one am okay with it.. you apparently have judgments with it..

Since he loves her and has had kids with her, wouldn't you think he'd try anything to make it work?

This isn't the idea that we can "force" people to love us.. or always choose us.. every second were a NEW person.. and sometimes these things change.. but let's be clear it's more than possible from right this second..

Steve can choose to fix his family/divorce.. it's up to him and the reality he goes to.. it's not for us to judge.. steve can wait 10 years.. erin can be re-married and he can still fix this divorce if both party's our willing..

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Since he loves her and has had kids with her, wouldn't you think he'd try anything to make it work? And it seems to me that this LoA should be able to provide a CONTINUED happy marriage for him then, because through the law of attraction you are supposed to be able to attract ANYTHING you want into your life, correct?

So if he truly wanted to have a CONTINUED happy marriage with Erin, according to the LoA he should have been able to attract it to himself then.
You may of course reply that he didn't want the marriage anymore, but I consider that an easy cop-out.
See above

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Moreover, what about people like Wayne Dyer, who I understand, has Leukemia now? And that woman who wrote "Excuse me, your life is waiting" (Lynn Grabhorn I think), who died of cancer? They both wrote about LoA and how it can create perfect health etc. and how it had changed their lives. How do you explain that then?

Please note I am not saying this to spite Steve or ridicule the LoA. I just would like some intelligent observations on these issues instead of people reciting platitudes that don't convince me.
Let met throw in another example.. a lot of people here into math and science and such like "Seth" who's channeler died of "leukemia" I believe..

This is a limitation reality.. it is highly limited.. in that if you believe the following
- Leukemia is bad for me.. I would never want to get that or have that.. never ever! (and you repeat that a lot.. that would be a bad idea!)

The rules are you get what you think about and you get what you allow.. so just because we've had great spiritual teachers doesn't mean they don't die too.. I mean even Jesus was technically a great spiritual teacher.. but as far as I'm aware he's not currently alive in my reality in that I mean around me.. cause technically he is also still alive

If you want to understand the rules.. then understand that this is such a limiting reality/game that we can't just turn our head and say "I want out of this game.. I had enough" we didn't design it with a out like that.. and the only way that works is to die anyway..

So the idea is in this reality where you can create beliefs and definitions that are limiting.. is that if you can't remove them, you can't clean them.. they will eventually kill you is what I understand

They will move from active in your reality, re-enforcing in your reality too.. manifestation into disease in your reality..

I don't really have a clue how to explain this to you in a positive way that you would not find invalidating.. so I suggest you ask your questions and I'll try again if you want.. if not as you know or don't know many people on this forum like messages from a entity called Abraham.. maybe try giving that a youtube listen if not "The Secret's" message is just as valid if you don't look for reasons to invalidate..

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