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Old 11-13-2009, 01:50 PM   #55 (permalink)
Melchior
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Originally Posted by Anagogy View Post
Yes. All possibilities are present and manifested, it is infinitely enormous, beyond human comprehension.
So if I said that I have comprehended it, you'd know I was lying or only thought that I had comprehended it? (and subsequently disagreed with it? )

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This is true, all probabilities ARE explored. But then, is that such a bad thing?

It's easy to look at it from our very human vantage point, and be disturbed by the idea of it, but as I understand it, from higher levels, all paradoxes are resolved.
I know that they are resolved, because nature doesn't realize paradoxes, it is what it is. I'll tell you why it is a 'bad' thing though (although, technically, that's just how it is, nothing good or bad about it...). It means that the world is deterministic, and whether you like it or not, this actually limits choice, through the exploration of all choice. By choosing everything, you don't choose at all. If anything, I'm beginning to understand the utility of having limits, flexible or not, because without limits, there would be no resistance, no reason for motivation, no change, everything yet nothing at all. So maybe it is just a game, a futile game that the unified consciousness executes in whatever existence it has, after all, that would be its nature, it's something that is inevitable. For humans, the idea of having infinite possibility, while on the surface is very appealing, once attained will only leave us, whatever 'us' is at that point, with nothing to do. Ever heard of the quote: "the journey is the reward"? I don't think it applies here, because all paths are taken, and the journey doesn't exist. there is only existence, in all its glory, doing nothing in particular. ...well, it might be having some fun.

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All forms can only be distinguished through the contrast of their opposite. If we could take all colors and think of them as mathematical values, we could see how any given color is canceled when it is combined with its perfect contrasting opposite color. All colors together are white, but add an equal value of black, and the white is canceled out too.

Or we could think of it terms of sound waves. There is constructive and deconstructive interference. A sound wave, and it's perfect opposite, produce the experience of silence. In fact, come to think of it, don't pilots utilize noise canceling head phones that actually perform this very function?

So if you take any experience, and its perfectly opposite probability and combine those realities into a single undivided conscious state, they cancel each other out. It's like (-1) + (1) = 0. And the only thing that doesn't have an opposite is consciousness (which is existence). So that's all that is left at the absolute point. There is no opposite to existence, but the illusion of duality is birthed when the absolute chooses to perceive an opposite to existence. Again, there is no opposite to existence, but it imagines there is. It's like a dream (or the big bang). And this imaginary "lack" thought form is reflected at all levels of reality. It's like the chain reaction for all illusory separated realities...until they figure out they don't exist apart from each other.
I think you mean amplitudes, not probabilities there. probability is the amplitude squared, which runs from 0 (not happening) to 1 (for sure happening). Negative probability has no meaning to it.

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Yes, you are right. You are also wrong. The source (or one/absolute) requires no free will, it is beyond any such human need for such. It is like freedom itself. It is comprised of ALL choices, or thoughts.

We, that is to say, our personalities that we identify ourselves to be *DO* have free will, though. Allow me to explain this whole theory in a slightly more intuitive way:

Imagine you are Source or God. You are omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.

What is the difference between the perfect dream of a given place, and the place in "real" life? If you had unlimited resources of energy, there would be no difference between the perfect simulation of a thing, and the thing itself. The experience would be EXACTLY the same. This is important.

Source doesn't just know everything that IS, Source knows everything that COULD BE. Source even knows what it is like to be Melchior, not knowing he is that very same Source. That knowingness *IS* your existence. Now, ALL "knowingnesses" are enfolded within Source's MASSIVE and infinite consciousness. It is a seamless field of infinite experience. I like to call it "intelligent infinity".

But to explain where free will comes into this, the portion of Source's knowingness you CURRENTLY perceive yourself to be is NOT "you", not the REAL you, anyhow. You are consciousness -- you are Source. What you perceive yourself to be is but a portion you have identified with. You don't have to keep identifying with that portion, you can identify with any aspect of its knowingness because you are, in reality, the whole enchilada. This is how the illusion of spiritual evolution occurs.

Your ego is just cycling through these various experiences, incarnating into different aspects of the cosmic mind. Right now, you are having the experience of being "Melchior". Your spiritual ego (the experience of individuality) is moving from knowingness to knowingness as it follows the stream of consciousness where it will, leading to broader and broader levels of knowingness, until one day, when we let go of our ego altogether, and return back to Source fully.

And then we will do it all over again...
Read above... oh cycles... maybe that's why it feels like I've lived this/my life before... >.>

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First of all, that alternate you is by all rights and reasonable purposes, a completely different person than you. He's like a cousin -- he shares certain similarities to you, some genetic, some social, some mental, some spiritual. But then, all beings in existence share at least SOME similarities with you. And of course, ultimately, we are ALL the same being. What you do to others really is done to your higher sense of "self".

Second of all, that other person is just an experience that Source has enfolded within it. YOU, the Melchior ego individual personality, doesn't have to experience any reality you don't want to. You get to choose what part of Source's infinite thoughtform you identify with. That is, until you voluntarily give up individuality altogether, and become identified with the continuum of existence itself (Source/Absolute).

Existence is a giant pretzel.
I've given up individuality, in a sense, when I understood nondualism. Strict determinism, on the other hand, is something that I can but never will accept because it defeats the purpose of 'growth'. Does this really matter though, which is 'correct'? For the physical model, it matters, for the consciousness model, it doesn't. In my opinion, the best 'choice' then would be the one that matters, even if it turns out to be wrong.
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