[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Melchior

You see, the issue I have with having a vantage point over infinity is that, well, mathematically speaking there's always 'more', unless of course you mean to say that the vantage point is that infinity, which then I would agree to said possibility.

Yes, that is what I meant by the absolute point, the vantage point is infinity itself.

Originally Posted by Melchior

Random thought/question: just because there are infinite possibilities, does that necessitate an complete/full set of what actually happens? i.e. every possibility is theoretically explored and 'manifested'?

Yes. All possibilities are present and manifested, it is infinitely enormous, beyond human comprehension.

Originally Posted by Melchior

I think what I was going off of there was that if all possibilities are explored, then qualia shouldn't matter in the great scheme of things. In fact, nothing and everything shouldn't matter in the great scheme of things because it will all happen at some point or another (or, technically speaking, it will just be). I use that same terminology for the purely physical model of the universe, that everything just is, but the difference there is that this 'being' changes and evolves.

In my consciousness model, being is always evolving as well, or rather, having the experience of evolution, rising to higher and higher plateaus of "knowingness", until your reach the absolute point, and then a new relative infinity is explored, or it seems new anyhow.

When you reach the absolute point or plane, it's as if this reality never existed in the first place, because the absolute is not affected by ANYTHING that happens in these relative realities we designate as "reality". They are merely vagaries of the stream.

The way the stream flows has no affect on the reality that water is still water, similar to how consciousness remains consciousness no matter what shape it assumes.

Originally Posted by Melchior

Well, my point was that it wasn't that you could just 'go' anywhere as you choose, it's that you would go all potential possibilities without a 'choice' because all of it happens. I suppose, if the model were 'true' that I can imagine this should necessitate that it is something that is 'true' as well (because I would then be in a world of those rules), and even if I didn't, if the model were 'true' then that would simply be another of those worlds...

This is true, all probabilities ARE explored. But then, is that such a bad thing?

It's easy to look at it from our very human vantage point, and be disturbed by the idea of it, but as I understand it, from higher levels, all paradoxes are resolved.

Originally Posted by Melchior

I'm not quite sure what you mean in that the parallel realities 'cancel' each other out... how does this happen? and what does it mean for the model?

All forms can only be distinguished through the contrast of their opposite. If we could take all colors and think of them as mathematical values, we could see how any given color is canceled when it is combined with its perfect contrasting opposite color. All colors together are white, but add an equal value of black, and the white is canceled out too.

Or we could think of it terms of sound waves. There is constructive and deconstructive interference. A sound wave, and it's perfect opposite, produce the experience of silence. In fact, come to think of it, don't pilots utilize noise canceling head phones that actually perform this very function?

So if you take any experience, and its perfectly opposite probability and combine those realities into a single undivided conscious state, they cancel each other out. It's like (-1) + (1) = 0. And the only thing that doesn't have an opposite is consciousness (which is existence). So that's all that is left at the absolute point. There is no opposite to existence, but the illusion of duality is birthed when the absolute chooses to perceive an opposite to existence. Again, there is no opposite to existence, but it imagines there is. It's like a dream (or the big bang). And this imaginary "lack" thought form is reflected at all levels of reality. It's like the chain reaction for all illusory separated realities...until they figure out they don't exist apart from each other.

Originally Posted by Melchior

But yeah, no free will, everything is predestined because everything is already, in a sense, finished, happening 'simultaneously' with each 'atemporal slice', if you understand what I'm reaching for here, coexisting in that instant that could be seen as infinitesimally short, yet encompassing all of eternity because it's all there is.

Yes, you are right. You are also wrong. The source (or one/absolute) requires no free will, it is beyond any such human need for such. It is like freedom itself. It is comprised of ALL choices, or thoughts.

We, that is to say, our personalities that we identify ourselves to be *DO* have free will, though. Allow me to explain this whole theory in a slightly more intuitive way:

Imagine you are Source or God. You are omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.

What is the difference between the perfect dream of a given place, and the place in "real" life? If you had unlimited resources of energy, there would be no difference between the perfect simulation of a thing, and the thing itself. The experience would be EXACTLY the same. This is important.

Source doesn't just know everything that IS, Source knows everything that COULD BE. Source even knows what it is like to be Melchior, not knowing he is that very same Source. That knowingness *IS* your existence. Now, ALL "knowingnesses" are enfolded within Source's MASSIVE and infinite consciousness. It is a seamless field of infinite experience. I like to call it "intelligent infinity".

But to explain where free will comes into this, the portion of Source's knowingness you CURRENTLY perceive yourself to be is NOT "you", not the REAL you, anyhow. You are consciousness -- you are Source. What you perceive yourself to be is but a portion you have identified with. You don't have to keep identifying with that portion, you can identify with any aspect of its knowingness because you are, in reality, the whole enchilada. This is how the illusion of spiritual evolution occurs.

Your ego is just cycling through these various experiences, incarnating into different aspects of the cosmic mind. Right now, you are having the experience of being "Melchior". Your spiritual ego (the experience of individuality) is moving from knowingness to knowingness as it follows the stream of consciousness where it will, leading to broader and broader levels of knowingness, until one day, when we let go of our ego altogether, and return back to Source fully.

And then we will do it all over again...

Originally Posted by Melchior

2) if on the other hand it is true that everything is all information/consciousness, then this is essentially the possibility of myself going through with this route, and I wish the other me who may have chosen differently good luck hopes he does well, even though I know that it will do him no good either way because it is inevitable that he will and won't.

First of all, that alternate you is by all rights and reasonable purposes, a completely different person than you. He's like a cousin -- he shares certain similarities to you, some genetic, some social, some mental, some spiritual. But then, all beings in existence share at least SOME similarities with you. And of course, ultimately, we are ALL the same being. What you do to others really is done to your higher sense of "self".

Second of all, that other person is just an experience that Source has enfolded within it. YOU, the Melchior ego individual personality, doesn't have to experience any reality you don't want to. You get to choose what part of Source's infinite thoughtform you identify with. That is, until you voluntarily give up individuality altogether, and become identified with the continuum of existence itself (Source/Absolute).

Existence is a giant pretzel.