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Originally Posted by john6630@hotmail.com  But here is the rub for me...if ALL is from my consciousness...if the "out there" is really "in here"...then how can there be a Universe out there from which I am attacting my reality? How can I be attracting that which I have already created? I seems totally inconsistent. |
You're not. This is the problem with "the law of attraction." The name is faulty. I've been thinking about that for some time. It could be better called the law of creation/L o manifestation/intention-manifestation/that thoughts and physical reality reflect each other... But according to subjective reality, there is no "out there". When Steve says "I really have no doubt that the million dollars is out there and it's coming" (From podcast, 'the true nature of reality' I think) I believe he means "I have no doubt that it's possible." He's just fallen into a trap of some semantics that originate from an objective reality/outside-one-conciousness mindset. Nothing exists, before it pops into your awareness, as anything other than an idea, it was just a possibility.
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Originally Posted by john6630@hotmail.com Add to that...it seems to be a very "lonely" philosophy. |
Steve has talked about this, and said it is not lonely at all, quite the opposite. It makes you feel connected with all that is. Here are my words on this:
Awareness cannot be lonely. It can only be aware of lonely/the feeling of loneliness. And only an ego will experience itself as lonely as it sees itself as seperate from all that is. Think about dreams - you are not lonely in dreams. Also, what is loneliness? All descriptions of loneliness I can readily come up with are fixed by the subR/all-within-one-consciousness mindset. A feeling of being seperate. A feeling of not being whole - that you're missing something. A feeling of sadness (suffering which ends with subR) that you need someone to comfort. A feeling of being small (in subR you are as vast as your imagination), limited, cut off from the world.
In subR, people are still whole people. Complex. In dreams people act just as, well, just as they do in this dream. The thought that people are not really there in physical and mental reality would make you lonely - but that is not the same as thinking they aren't aware. 'They are not real' is a lonely thought only when it means you can't interact with them, talk with them, touch them. If the people of the world were replaced with empty visual holograms, then an ego would be lonely! (a realized conciousness, I think, would still feel that bliss, and could anyway easily create new people to have the experience of relationship.) People are as real as your first ego. Your ego's inside your conciousness/awareness too. Other people don't have as many thoughts as your first ego, because you don't project as many thoughts onto them as you think of your own thoughts. But they still talk just as much when you meet them, and give hugs that can be experienced. And all those experiences are exactly as real, no more no less, as your thoughts and emotions. If you imagine other people have emotions, they do - you're just the only one who's aware of it.
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Originally Posted by john6630@hotmail.com What I sense is that I do have a Subjective Reality that co-exists with all other Subjective Realities in a larger Objective Reality. |
I tried this, but I can see the idea that other people have individual awarenesses (that can be in conflict with my own by fact of their existence), when I really look at it, makes me very scared
I tried what Rocket Surgery described too. No bliss there
I'm trying to decide to believe in subR. It's difficult for me to let go... Not to do it, but to decide to. "Can I really believe this stuff? Yeah, but..."
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Originally Posted by john6630@hotmail.com I can answer the paradoxes Steve raises in several ways. The one about two intentions competing for the same result...well I do belive the Universe is capable of supporting competition...why can't the stronger intention win...survival of the fittest. |
as you believe it, so shall it be.
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Originally Posted by john6630@hotmail.com Well those are my ramblings...it is all very very interesting..but in the end, the comfort of applying the LoA is amazing, regardless of the intellectual understanding. |
Yes! It's the mindset of abundant miracles! Let's all work with the most empowering beliefs - and nip that LoA terminology in the bud, *cough* pseudo-scientific magnetism *grumbles*...