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Originally Posted by cylon  My response was to this question of yours:
So I provided examples. And note that I said "SELF-PROCLAIMED" black leaders. That means I was saying they were assuming the mantle of leader, and you cannot deny how extremely powerful and influential these two men are in the racial dialogue we have today.
The "leaders" that are not so powerful are any blacks who dare to take a non-victim approach, conservatives like Thomas Sewell, Larry Elder, Clarence Thomas, Coneleeza Rice... all who have received racist remarks from fellow blacks, as being uncle toms, or trying to act white. I define those as racist remarks. And white liberals have said the same thing, so they have made racist remarks, but gotten away with it because it was against people on the right.
Now... no, you and I DON'T know that's true. Jackson and Sharpton consistently blame white America for all the ills that blacks face. I understand that you disagree, but to me, it is just a fact.
So, what is personal is when you tell me instantly, without really taking the time to ask me follow up questions, or to come to a better understanding of my views, that "obviously know very very little about Sharpton and Jackson". That is an insult, and a suggestion that I am ignorant and don't know what I am talking about.
Also, it is extremely presumptuous on your part. Because it's not true. Like I said before, I probably know way more about them than you do. (And it also presumes that I have never had black friends, girlfriends, close coworkers, or any other direct interaction with black people other than television. Lots of presumptions on your part there.)
For instance, do you know anything about this Rush Limbaugh NFL bid that they had a hand in ruining, or is this the first you're learning of their involvement in it? |
With the 'Uncle Tom' stuff that's not racism. People should really be more mindful of what racism is and what it isn't. A racial comment isn't necessarily a racist comment. Calling someone an Uncle Tom or a sell-out isn't a racist remark. Remember, racists believe that their race is better than others. And for the record, I too, believe Larry Elder and Condoleeza Rice are sell-outs.
Ok we can argue about Jackson and Sharpton. But you really think they blame White America for all problems? I don't. I"ll bet you can find videos of them criticizing Blacks too. You didn't mention that, though. You only said they blame Whites for everything when I know for a fact, that's not true. I don't keep up with them daily but I am aware of what they stand for and what they have done. When an injustice happens to a Black person, they are right there to help or at least bring public exposure to it. I wish you could show me how they blame White America for everything. Show me a youtube video or something.
It was presumptuous on my part. Your comments were not true so I assumed you must not know what you were talking about. You can take that personal but it isn't. Take it as a challenge. Prove your point to me. Prove that they blame Whites for everything.
You need to understand that I enjoy debating but I never attack people. I attack their ideas. I attatck their argumnents. I don't fight dirty. I won't call you names. Btw, saying someone lacks knowledge on a particular subject (aka ignorance) is not personal. And no, I don't know what goes on in your personal life and I don't really care because it isn't relevant to what we are talking about.
Lastly, yes I do know that Rush Limbaugh was trying to buy a team. I also know that he has made some pretty racist comments. Neither Jackson nor Sharpton has stopped Rush from buying the Rams and neither one of them can stop him.