I misread your post then. When you said that women ignored these kind of guys, it sounded like you were judging them for it. Rather than acting sanely!
I agree with you about the differing meanings of 'nice guy'. It has a sliding definition. By the terms of the thread what women want for a relationship is a good guy. Not someone who is so full-on that he wants to dedicate his life to her. Not such a jerk that he is using her simply for ego gratification. But someone who knows his own mind, likes to do nice things and spend time together but has a spine too. I dunno - a smart person maybe?
I also disagree about nice girls being able to get all the sex they want. I've known a few in my time who couldn't pull for toffee. I remember when I was 22 and on a workplacement and my co-worker asking me how to get a boyfriend because she had never dated anyone. And no, she wasn't unattractive, but incredibly shy and unconfident.
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