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SmartAlx · 10-29-2009, 10:23 AM

Well then, if magick and the LoA take credit for every method we use to improve ourselves and stay positive (including Christian prayer) then there is no argument that one can say against it is there?

Except that we disagree that those things ARE magick and the LoA. You say they are magickal methods, but I disagree.

I could say that everything we do and say exists in one of Zeus's dreams. Of course, if you will permit me to predict what you will say, your natural response would be that I am welcome to believe whatever I want to believe and if it works for me then that's fine.

Would I be off track in guessing that might be one of your responses?

But 2 things. Just because I believe it doesn't make it true. And another thing, it being true for me and not true for anyone else doesn't allow my belief system to be what I think it is, a UNIVERSAL belief system. And the belief that each of us has an individual belief system that doesn't fit for anyone else also doesn't allow for yours to be a universal belief system either. Yet you are acting as if magick and the LoA are universal.

It's as if you feel that there is an overarching belief system that says each of us has a unique individual belief system and you won't accept anyone saying that this is not true. Oh you'll say they have a right to believe it (and I would agree with you) but your overarching belief over all belief systems still holds sway. You don't accept the idea that you might be wrong and the LoA and magick are bupkis. Just because someone believes something, that doesn't make their belief system true.

Believing does not create reality, contrary to popular opinion here. Belief is a response to a perception of reality. Belief is the effect, not the cause. If belief creates reality then every answer to any question about the LoA HAS to be "if that's your belief."

Do I have to meditate every day? "If that's your belief."

Is it okay if I don't meditate every day? "If that's your belief."

If I put a piece of paper with the number 8 written on it inside my wallet, will I get money? "If that's your belief."

Does 11:11 mean anything? "If that's your belief."

Will I find all if the answers to life's questions on this forum. "If that's your belief."

Can I come up with the answers on my own? "If that's your belief."

If all of that is true, then what good is this forum? Can't Steve just put up a sign on the front page in big fat red letters that says "believe what you want" and save us all the trouble of interracting on this forum?

"If that's your belief." LOL

Surely we get something more. "If that's your belief."

See? It gets pretty ridiculous. Kind of like a kid asking "why" to all of your answers. But that is the attitude you experts seem to have.

"If that's your belief."

Stop it Alex.

10-29-2009, 10:23 AM	#38 (permalink)
SmartAlx Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 909	Well then, if magick and the LoA take credit for every method we use to improve ourselves and stay positive (including Christian prayer) then there is no argument that one can say against it is there? Except that we disagree that those things ARE magick and the LoA. You say they are magickal methods, but I disagree. I could say that everything we do and say exists in one of Zeus's dreams. Of course, if you will permit me to predict what you will say, your natural response would be that I am welcome to believe whatever I want to believe and if it works for me then that's fine. Would I be off track in guessing that might be one of your responses? But 2 things. Just because I believe it doesn't make it true. And another thing, it being true for me and not true for anyone else doesn't allow my belief system to be what I think it is, a UNIVERSAL belief system. And the belief that each of us has an individual belief system that doesn't fit for anyone else also doesn't allow for yours to be a universal belief system either. Yet you are acting as if magick and the LoA are universal. It's as if you feel that there is an overarching belief system that says each of us has a unique individual belief system and you won't accept anyone saying that this is not true. Oh you'll say they have a right to believe it (and I would agree with you) but your overarching belief over all belief systems still holds sway. You don't accept the idea that you might be wrong and the LoA and magick are bupkis. Just because someone believes something, that doesn't make their belief system true. Believing does not create reality, contrary to popular opinion here. Belief is a response to a perception of reality. Belief is the effect, not the cause. If belief creates reality then every answer to any question about the LoA HAS to be "if that's your belief." Do I have to meditate every day? "If that's your belief." Is it okay if I don't meditate every day? "If that's your belief." If I put a piece of paper with the number 8 written on it inside my wallet, will I get money? "If that's your belief." Does 11:11 mean anything? "If that's your belief." Will I find all if the answers to life's questions on this forum. "If that's your belief." Can I come up with the answers on my own? "If that's your belief." If all of that is true, then what good is this forum? Can't Steve just put up a sign on the front page in big fat red letters that says "believe what you want" and save us all the trouble of interracting on this forum? "If that's your belief." LOL Surely we get something more. "If that's your belief." See? It gets pretty ridiculous. Kind of like a kid asking "why" to all of your answers. But that is the attitude you experts seem to have. "If that's your belief." Stop it Alex.