[themaster]

Originally Posted by blossom

though to you, it sounds like these people are just being selfish and not doing more to stop world hunger or whatever!..

I think you've got me wrong on this.. I want people to be selfish.. I don't want them fixing world hunger

Originally Posted by blossom

Read the words...there is nothing I wrote in that quote that indicates what you said that I said, so I'm not sure where you got that from? I also think if you read carefully your own words, you may just find a certain amount of judgement there also...

I did read them.. there's just something about your statement about a "disaster" that sounds like judgment.. but since I can't ferret it out.. it really don't matter to me

Ohh.. absolutely there's a few judgment statements in my last post.. but I really don't mean them nor do I care..

Wouldn't you WANT to know if your government was lying to you?

I believe I've already stated this.. but to be clear.. no I don't, I honestly don't care what they do..

If EVERYTHING you have grown up to believe is true is really all fabricated?

I already knew that TRUTH.. I don't need to prove it.. nor actualize it.. nor share it in a preachy manner

Originally Posted by blossom

Some would...but MOST would prefer to live under the illusion that their government is taking care of them, because it's a little too scary to contemplate the possibility that they really don't care about the people at all...especially when America holds such a strong patriotic cultural mindset.

You see now this is a statement of limitation.. why would anyone think the government is taking care of them?

What is there to take care of?

People obviously know how to behave in society.. the government is just a illusion of structure.. in that structure there is a fundamental societal belief.. that says "we are so primitive that without this structure we could not get along nor take care of ourselves, nor feed or cloth ourselves" well I for one just don't have this belief.. if tomorrow city hall and the white house were gone.. I would not behave in the above way.. I would not freak out if we had no armed forces to protect us from evil doers!!

And why are we talking about other people.. when we should be talking about ourselves?

Do you believe blossom that if the government collapsed you would be taken care of? Or do you believe the others who put their trust in the government would then seek you out?

Isn't the pursuit of truth in a world based around lies a worthy pursuit?

No it isn't.. it's just playing into the game.. what if the world is a illusion and thus the truth to that is a illusion too.. what if the ultimate truth is.. it's all a illusion?

That is what LOA's supposed to teach I guess some haven't gotten there yet..

And beyond that.. what if those lies are truths and what if those evils are truths and what if those illusions are all truths? What if invalidating anything is invalidating ourselves because we are the truths and we are the lies?

(and yah that's a lot of questions.. but ohh well )

Originally Posted by blossom

The difference is, I think, that the CT's will search for the truth of it instead of complaining about what they have accepted is true, but is probably a lie!

Yes, but in searching for the truth.. they've missed the point.. cause they've bought right back into the lie.. you see these structures and ideas are illusions.. everything created here by humankind is made by humankind and is fallible like humankind and these structures were built out of fear.. but REMOVE the FEAR.. and all these ideas are useless..

(I know blossom that you and I aren't having the best conversation on this and how to expose what I'm talking about.. but as you can see in all this writing I am trying here to get to the root of this issue with you )

Originally Posted by blossom

To CT's it is...to those who think they are idiots it is a waste of time. CT's don't see it as 'fun' to be discovering lie upon lie upon lie...it's more of a passion for the truth that it builds in them, which, as someone earlier stated "makes them feel alive" Yes, it does. To search for truth makes a person feel like they are really alive and not content to settle for being controlled...it's a path of freedom which most people aren't interested in taking since they are happy to let someone else control them! What's wrong with not wanting that?

Yes, and once again I see your point and truth on this.. but there is your statement of limitation and judgment.. what if the people that didn't vote and didn't go down the path of researching Conspiracy Theories are not under someone else's control?

What if they too are in engaged in a self empowering discovery?
What if there is no right way to take back ones power?
And simply following a path of LOA, following a path of religion, ignoring the world are also right ways to take control of the world internally??

My point is stop judging society as being "controlled".. you can't speak for them.. you don't know them.. there are 6.8 billion perspectives on the planet and speaking for one or all cannot be done even if we do it generally sometimes..

If it were me.. I would let them do their thing and I would do my thing

Originally Posted by blossom

I also think with this whole LOA thing, people who are sold on that belief system tend to categorize everything they read and hear as either " negative" " neutral" or "positive" and then decide that anything that they see as being too non-conformist, must therefore be "negative"

I'm not sure really if LOA is sold as a belief system.. it's more like from one my teachers just a primary law of creation for all realities

Originally Posted by blossom

Exposing lies

Well, that's the problem then.. the idea that there are lies.. you see I don't believe they exist.. I believe that all truths are true.. all conspiracy theories are true.. my point has always been

Well, so?

You say the banks are taking over and buying up all the land in america..

I say.. well so?

You say the american dollar is losing devaluation and the world economy will collapse and you will be affected...

And I say.. well so?

You say: there are lies

And I say.. well so what has that got to do with anything..?? I think we all create our own reality.. so what if there lies? so what if there's untruths? so what if the government is BUILT ON LIES? What has that got to do with me? I'm living each day likes it's my last, I'm working on having fun in every moment, I like being creative, watching tv and sex.. what's going on out there doesn't matter.. the only thing that matters is what is the fun for me of this experience..