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Originally Posted by lifetimelearner  I still envision the pain/pleasure module as crude |
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is crude because at our core we are animals. Highly developed, intelligent ones, but still animals. I don't mean that we are savages, but we are mammals and pain/pleasure are the stimuli we respond to. You see this illustrated most clearly in the behavior of children. They have to undergo years of training and reinforcement to break them of the natural drive to seek only their own personal pleasure of the moment.
I'm dealing with the real nitty-gritty truth in order to get where I want to go in life. I get that people don't want to think of themselves in this way and they have found concepts that work better for them. The P/P concept has been powerful for me, because helps me find the most effective ways I can overcome my basic instincts when they conflict with realizing my goals.
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People are motivated by either Love or Fear. But the concept would still hold true no matter the words I choose to use, but love and fear work better for me.
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Exactly. For me, if Love/Fear is 6/8, Pleasure/Pain is 3/4. I just find it more effective to deal with the pure reduction.