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Originally Posted by Isis Kali  I understand that, but there's also a lot of blame in their posts, or at least lots of words that just make me feel shameful and foolish.
Plus, MS' link actually go to a forum post that doesn't reference one of Steve articles. I read it already.
I guess what I'm saying...and what I do in practice...is that I don't go the "Tough Love" route, especially when I recognize where someone's coming from in terms of depression. It backfires most of the time, and is generally a bad idea. They may not like those words in the forums generally, but sometimes people need to have a space to say those things...and they simply need someone to say, "I understand. You'll feel better. We're listening." Not "Well, don't you know it's your fault? Why don't you do thisthisthis?"
I'm regretting posting because all I'm hearing is that I'm not doing things right, I'm not receiving correctly, I'm wrong, I'm bad. That's what this all feels like to me. It's making me very, very upset right now, and I don't especially want to come back to this thread. I wish I could erase it. |
Please read my post again. I said none of those things. You might be seeing them in my post but that's not what I said.
I spoke very straightforward yes, but you don't need to feel ashamed. I went through it myself.
Also look over your own posts, you already set yourself up to defend against these 'it's all in your head' posts, you even predicted they were coming! Going LOA style you intended these responses, and you probably had your response post already sitting in your head before any of us even read your initial ones.
You put us in a difficult situation. You basically said with your posts don't reply unless you are going to sympathise with me. But you want help? Sympathy does not help you, it -weakens- you.
Besides, if it really was chemical and you had
no control whatsoever, then
no words we say can have any effect positive or negative.
If our words can affect you, positive or negative,
then you have at least a little control because we all know that outside circumstances only affect us when we let them.
Your posts also highlighted all the bad things in your life, and how you feel terrible after leaving your great life to go backwards to your old life.
If it is
these circumstances that are making you feel bad then again it's not chemical it's circumstantial.
You cannot say - It is chemical and I, who am inside my head, have no control, but life, which is outside my head, has complete control of my emotions?????
You do realise the impossibility of that statement don't you?
Anyway I know lecturing you won't change your mind.
"A person convinced against their will, is of the same opinion still!"
So I will
quadruple the offer.
$200 US If you can write a several hundred word positive post and not fell better. It is sitting in my paypal account right now with your name on it.
That will get your hair and your nails done, and you even take Grandpa out to dinner.
Prove to us it is out your control.
I also offerred to help you with your money and computer program stress. You threw the offer back in my face without even commenting on it. Do you really want help with these things or to just complain about them?
If you
just wanted to vent then
SAY THAT. Don't ask for help then reject everything people offer you and take a swing at them in the process.
If you can't show us
you want to try to get out of the depression by at least taking my challenge, then why would any of us want to help you, when you don't want to help yourself?
Do the challenge and prove me wrong, or forever hold your peace.
-completely off topic but you obviously have a lot of pent up anxiety and pain attached to your youth, this could be the perfect opportunity to work through that pain, and free yourself from it leavign you stronger and happier than ever before.