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Old 02-15-2007, 07:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Integral Contemplative Christianity

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Originally Posted by ethereal View Post
I recently had a realization about "Christ died for our sins..." I've heard that phrase from many Christians over and over, but I never got a satisfactory context of what it really means. It just didn't "click", until I read the following explanation and piecing together some other things:

"Christ took the sins of the world on his shoulders. When you reach a very high
level of consciousness you pick up negative karma from the collective human
karma. This is what Christ did. He held all of the suffering of man in mind
(“please forgive them for they know not what they do”). Jesus could die for all of us because he could feel our collective suffering."

I read somewhere else that when your consciousness is high enough, you're able to transfer karmic merit (good karma) to others, and take on other people's karmic debts (bad karma).

Now it finally makes some sense! It seems like Christians believe in karma even though they say they don't

I'd be interested in learning more about how to integrate Christianity into a larger spiritual context, if anybody else has any additional insights to share on this topic. I think by doing so, people will be more willing to learn about Christianity, and they'll be understanding it at a higher spiritual level as well (so both sides win ).

Wow!! that is incredible. Somehow I never thought of it in that context. Many mystics who attain a higher level of consciousness have talked about feeling the suffering of the world. Your explaination also falls in line with Integral theory of human development which pulls from Lawerence Kohlberg's levels of moral develompent and James Fowler's stages of faith.

for example, a fundamentalist interpret the Bible/Koran/Torrah literally which automatically rules out all the others (and other interpretations). While someone with a more pluralistic point of view might draw the spiritual goodness of all three.

With so many catastrophic changes happening in christianity (naghamadi library, gnostic gospels, Ted Haggard and other fallen evangelists and priests) it seems like it is now comming into a new reformation such that some are even begining to call themselves "Christ followers" instead of christians.

Here is yet another change in Christianity: integral contemplative christanity.
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