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JoaquinFox · 11-07-2006, 12:03 PM

I don't think anyone needs to defend themselves for their food choices. I don't want to speak for anyone else's experiences, but I have to say in terms of raising your consciousness and having a true understanding of why a vegetarian lifestyle would be positive or negative you would have to do it yourself. No one telling you one way or the other is really going to get you to the truth. I accept that there are people out there who have experimented with vegetarianism and found it not to suit them, but I find it completely foolish for someone who's never experienced a sustained and healthy vegetarian or vegan diet to voice a credible opinion on the matter.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of what diet they should choose, I'm only trying to point out that the methodology of polling people's opinion who have no experience with a sustained and healthy vegetarian or vegan diet will only render flawed conclusions. As Steve said in one of his podcasts regarding the nature of reality, he recognized that if Buddha was correct about reality he would never be able to know that until he let go of his own limited beliefs. Another analogy would be to describe the benefits of a orgasm to someone...you are never going to know what that experience is truly like until you have it yourself.

If you like meat that's great, but that's really not the point. The point is that the only people who will really understand the reasons and the rationales for going vegetarian are the ones who have taken it on and experienced the benefits (or so be it the drawbacks) of the diet. We're here to encourage each other to act consciously, so while the boards are useful in providing a space for us to share our experiences, there's no substitute for actually taking on the experience for yourself. That's the only way I can see your first post being consciously answered.

11-07-2006, 12:03 PM	#24 (permalink)
JoaquinFox Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 22	Eat Consciously I don't think anyone needs to defend themselves for their food choices. I don't want to speak for anyone else's experiences, but I have to say in terms of raising your consciousness and having a true understanding of why a vegetarian lifestyle would be positive or negative you would have to do it yourself. No one telling you one way or the other is really going to get you to the truth. I accept that there are people out there who have experimented with vegetarianism and found it not to suit them, but I find it completely foolish for someone who's never experienced a sustained and healthy vegetarian or vegan diet to voice a credible opinion on the matter. I'm not trying to convince anyone of what diet they should choose, I'm only trying to point out that the methodology of polling people's opinion who have no experience with a sustained and healthy vegetarian or vegan diet will only render flawed conclusions. As Steve said in one of his podcasts regarding the nature of reality, he recognized that if Buddha was correct about reality he would never be able to know that until he let go of his own limited beliefs. Another analogy would be to describe the benefits of a orgasm to someone...you are never going to know what that experience is truly like until you have it yourself. If you like meat that's great, but that's really not the point. The point is that the only people who will really understand the reasons and the rationales for going vegetarian are the ones who have taken it on and experienced the benefits (or so be it the drawbacks) of the diet. We're here to encourage each other to act consciously, so while the boards are useful in providing a space for us to share our experiences, there's no substitute for actually taking on the experience for yourself. That's the only way I can see your first post being consciously answered.