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Originally Posted by escapee

To tell you truth, i'm currently more concerned about the long term health of of strict vegan/vegetarians than how the plants or fruits suffer.

A good article about strict veganism. Read it with open mind.

In search of the best vegeterian diet (for rats)

This family (two generations) does quite well on an all vegan diet. Anti-vegan articles have begun to bore me (Mercola, WestonPricians, Sally Felton, etc.).

As for fruits and vegetables suffering? Not likely, they have no central nervous system. Not to mention fruits "want" (from a reproductive standpoint) to be eating (and some of their seeds dropped or ♥♥♥♥♥ out), same with nuts (the trees hope you eat some but drop others which will then sprout). Greens can be picked without killing the plant. Milk can be obtained humanely (I'm vegetarian, not vegan, I enjoy raw goat's and sheep's milk ).