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Old 09-01-2009, 08:04 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lioness View Post
Hopefully Nannie is OK and will give us an update soon.

To Ginkgo: I used the word "implore" because I did want to appeal to Nannie not to set herself up for a possible lifetime of the miserable fast/feast vicious cycle. I empathize with her and was really hoping she would benefit from my and other's experience and not have to go through it herself.


There is a difference between someone who is simply overweight and one who is a compulsive or binge eater. I stand by my belief that fasting only makes an eating addiction worse. In the past, I followed many Dr.s advice; Dr. Atkins, Dr. Stillman, Dr. Tarnower, Dr. Linn - anyone remember drinking red goo for a month? I think the best advice for someone with an addiction comes from people who have had long-term success in beating it, not necessarily an MD. As for Dr. Oz' morbidly obese patients, these are people who are in danger of dying and have to take drastic action. That is a whole other subject and is not the case with Nannie.

Fasting may be good for cleansing/detoxifying and other health benefits. You can lose a lot of weight, but for those of us who have food issues, it won't stay off. And isn't that the whole point?
As far as "implore", the Bhagavad Gita says to not be attached to the fruit of your actions. This means that say you want the government to make trans fats illegal since they are so harmful. There is nothing wrong with trying your hardest. But it is not good if they decide not to that you get so upset that you kill yourself or set off a bomb killing thousands of people as a protest.

That is the difference. See effort in what you believe in is good. Getting upset for any reason is never, ever good. It is good to try to be healthy but not good to worry about it.

Jesus says about anxiety, "Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your Heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?.... Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself (NIV bible-- Matthew 6:26). The line in red is in both Matthew 6:27 and Luke 12:25."

As far as losing weight and fasting my site has a lot of information on this like:

The New England Journal of Medicine-- "Fasting is a valid experience. It can benefit any otherwise healthy person whose calories now have the upper hand in his/her life."

Dr Cott says "When anyone abstains totally from food, profound changes take place. These changes revise attitudes about food and put appetite into alignment with the body's real need for energy."

It also tells about the Lemonade Diet that is a great way to lose weight.
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