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Old 08-16-2009, 08:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
Strem2
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Ok lets try and be truthful. What do congressmen, senators and presidents get out of promoting more government intervention? Would they mispresent the truth in order to push thru an agenda?
They get nothing out of pushing through a public health insurance. -- What do you think they get out of it?

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Have anyone in government, affiliated advisors ever lied to push thru an agenda?
Of course.

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Do you know enough about economics for that matter, to support these kinds of violent policies with not even an exit strategy?
You keep saying "violent". I listened to the link you made before and don't understand how a public health option, a voluntary option that is paid for only by the subscribers, is violent. You have to be more specific. It is not forced, it is voluntary.

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Lets also try and be reasonable. Why are things any different with this healthcare reform, the guys on the pro-side of it and the Iraq war and the guys on the Pro-side of that?
This reform was requested by the voters. The Iraq war was promoted by a man whose father narrowly escaped a "hit man" sent by Sadaam Hussain, and another man whose former agency went from close to bankruptcy to being very, very well off.

No one is getting any money from anywhere by promoting this health program. In fact, it's probably costing them money.


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Its a question of power, taxes and just making a living for guys in government. Its not about virtue, truth and reason, it has never been. Just look at history.
Your point? You and others have been saying that it's good to be selfish. Now you want me to argue against that?
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