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Old 08-16-2009, 12:26 PM   #17 (permalink)
Brutha
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I know people think healtcare is right because it heals us. But what about food and water? That keeps us alive. Then that should be a right too, something everyone else has to provide for everyone else.
Access to food and water is also a right. That's why people who have no money get food stamps to get food.

At the point where not everyone has access to health care, food or water the government has to intervene.
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All economies follow the same rules, otherwise the economic model would be faulty.
Every model is faulty. Especially economic models.

Even Austrian economists don't have models that allow them to accuaretly predict economic events.
Economics isn't a science that has accurate models in the same way as physics.
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When you increase costs of production and decrease supply, the price of the product or service increases and the quantity supplied decreases.
There two different kinds of costs.
1) The cost to develop a new treatments.
2) The cost to treat people.
If you price everything at 2), no business has money to pay for 1). Pharma is an industry in which 1) costs companies more than 2).
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Why then, is food relatively cheap and plentiful while health care is expensive? Because government regulations and mandates have driven up administration costs, licensing has decreased the supply of doctors, and the FDA's rules have decreased the supply of medicine.
Actually food prices are set by government intervention in the US and in Europe, I therefore don't see that point.

Government controls food prices by spending billions of dollars in the US but doesn't control health care prices at the moment.

The government gives subsidies to farmers to get them to produce cheap food and enough food to feed everyone.
The government gives foodstemps to everyone who can't afford food.

That's what you libertarians call a free market?

If you would spent that kind of government money that you spend on farming subsidies additionally on health research I would be fine with getting rid of patents.
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