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Originally Posted by JHL  For me, Rob S has raised a very intriguing point, and the best responses to it thus far in this thread have not exceeded the level of being glib or dismissive. Not very convincing. The question remains: if such powers do in fact exist, how is it that not one person has been able to reliably demonstrate them? |
I am glad I am not the only one who feels the responses I have received so far are dismissive. I've also asked in subsequent posts to ignore Randi and answer the question. However, I just keep getting responses that his tests are fabricated to make people fail. Fine, then go on Oprah's show and give her a mind blowing psychic experience. Then do a special with CNN, 20/20, Primetime and 60 minutes. This is where many people want to see this, not on some obscure website. Have someone check the universities that performed tests on the psychics. See what tests they did. Perhaps the scientific proof is already there and we need not go any further.
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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina This is really no different than any other field. You'll find dishonest lawyers, doctors, politicians, CEOs, and even... gasp... gamblers.
Lawyers have a particular bad reputation externally, yet within the field you'll find people with high integrity who genuinely want to make a positive difference. Same goes for corporate CEOs. |
Steve, you are 100% right. Here is the difference. I can take a few doctors and give them a test. The real good doctors will pass the test because they have the skills to do so. The real doctors are not afraid to have you talk to his/her patients and ask them what they think of him/her. The real doctor has nothing to hide and will share his/her skills and knowledge. The dishonest doctor may or may not pass the test, the dishonest doctor will not come with good references. So I agree, this is similar to doctors, lawyers and politicians. The only difference is there are ways of proving fraudulants doctors from real ones.
People of have posted that some psychics are not interested in the money (Randi's $1M). If so, why do they charge hundreds of dollars an hour for a reading? Does the amount they charge corralate to the amount of good information you receive? Shouldn't the best psychic, who is not interested in the money, be the cheapest or free? If in fact a psychic is helping someone with good solid information, then I agree that as with any other professional service, you have to pay for the service. However, don't tell me that if there was an award of 1 million dollars presented to anyone who could prove their skills as a heart surgeon, that no one would jump in and claim the prize because they are not in their profession for the money. Or that no one in 40 years could win the prize.
When I started this thread I was not skeptical about this. I simple wanted to know why no one has won the one million dollars. However, the more dismissive responses I get the more skeptical I become. I feel like I am being told I have to have faith and leave it at that since no reliable proof will ever be provided. Sad.
Steve/Erin, you've done so much for so many of us. Why are you dismissing these questions?