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Old 02-05-2007, 11:02 AM   #15 (permalink)
ethereal
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They're already out there right now. The teachings of enlightenment are available for free over the internet, there are around 20+ calibrated enlightened people on the planet, some of them are in reclusive hiding but contributing their spiritual energy towards lifting the collective consciousness, others are in public teaching what they know even though they are not required to:

Bodhisattva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jesus's teachings in the New Testament are pretty well-known, same with Buddhism, the Vedas and Bhagavad Gita, the Koran, etc. This is all out there for everyone to choose to follow, and having the intention to desire enlightenment or mankind's highest good will eventually align them with that destiny. However, it should be pretty obvious to you that not all people are interested, some statistic says that only 1 in 1 million people would say that their life goal is enlightenment; many religious people are not spiritual at all, but rather use religion as a way to prop up their ego or as a shortcut to salvation.

You seem to want God to fix everything and make Earth a paradise. But that's forcing it on people who, apparently, aren't even very interested or want it that much. God never forces, He is always available as an option for people to choose, now how many choose God over riches, fame, success? Over their very life and existence? People only cry out to God when they are suffering and need help, do they ever praise God or worship him when they are happy and successful? To me it seems like they are worshipping happiness and success rather than God. God doesn't really care, He loves them anyway no matter what they choose but they get what they ask for (choose), nothing more and nothing less

You want to believe God is unlimited, yet you also want to limit his infiniteness by imposing what God "should" do based on our ego/mind's standards and what we believe is "right". Don't think that's very fair it's like a tree demanding that the forest ought to stop blocking the sunlight for it.

In fact, God loves everyone so much that even when someone makes mistakes, he allows them to repent through karma, and that is why there is suffering at all, it is meant to teach them that "as you sow, so shall you reap". That's all suffering is. That's pretty fair, don't you think? Once souls have learned enough lessons to become as Godly as possible (unconditionally loving, compassionate, selfless, etc.), then they become enlightened, are released from karma and reincarnation, and suffering ceases. Do you think most of us have learned our lessons, though? Or are you gonna stick with, "if God is infinite He'll just let me have what I want without earning it"

I admire your honorable intentions, but instead of directing your anger and sorrow at God, direct it at the real culprit, which is man's ego/mind. David Hawkins explained it very well, the ego is basically the vestiges of the animal instincts that we evolved from, the baser instincts of survival at all costs. All human suffering can be explained by mankind's animal instincts destroying itself. Until man collectively chooses God and Truth and Love over the ego, there will always be suffering.

I'll suggest that you do what Steve did in one of his subjective reality blog posts, I forget which: intend that God/the universe show you the answer to your questions, intend that He show you Truth and Reality, without any judgment or desire or expectation for what it "should" be like. Let it go, and wait. Perhaps you'll find what you're looking for. I am done posting in this thread, good luck on your search

edit: David Hawkins, M.D.Ph.D. Beyond the Ordinary Dot Net
December 9th, 2003: viewpoint on the suffering of the world, about 35:00 in
- listen to an enlightened being speak on the subject

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