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Originally Posted by C33 I am a vegetarian, living in France, for now, and am constantly around meat eaters. Most, are uncomfortable with the fact that I need a"special meal" when they invite me, even though, I tell them all the time that I can bring my own food.
As many of you who are vegetarians or vegans, I am constantly asked about my choice.
Being a lacto-ovo vegetarians, I do get a fair share of: eggs are babies and I also get, quite often, the line: "Vegetables suffer too", with a good imitation of a salad screaming for mercy thrown in.
I am a good sport and laugh along with the crowd,but I don t like my choices to be unvalidated by the teasing. I would like to be able to have a repartee that would stop the teasing, so that they see I am really serious about my choices, and convey to people that their meat-eating habits are hurtful to them and the animals and that is no laughing matter.All of this in a light, playful way.
1- What is the scientific data about plants suffering, and how does it compare to the suffering of animals, how to explain that to a layman?
2-I do understand that saying that plants suffer is a way to deflate the real issue of meat eating as murder. How do I reply to plants suffer too, by reconnecting to the subject at hand: animals suffer!
I am not sure this post belongs to health and fitness, feel free to transfer somewhere else in the forum. |
Anyone who has came up with the 'plants suffer' nonsense are obviously so uniformed about any real issues that they resort to childlike hypothesis.
Plants have no central nervous system. They have evolved more or less, to be digested by herbivores like us humans and in fact if you look at the seesds of many plants they do not become dispersed until they are digested and excreted by animals.
Secondly many plants do not grow from seed until they are scorched by bush fires for example. Doesnt sound like these plants have feelings eh?
What you normally find is that pathetic uniformed attcks like the one you described are from those who are inwardly scared by their own health. Fact- eating animals raises cholesterol, encourages organ disease and cancers.
I have gpne past the stage where I care what other people do to their bodies. Unfortunately though the billions of animals that have to die often with immense suffering prior to their deaths, are the reason why I do care.
Those morons who use the plant argument are in fact arguing that animals DO suffer! So next time one of these pinnacles of rudeness attempts to belittle your lifestyle choices, remind them that they are supporting your premises that animals feel pain and suffer. So do they feel happy about that?