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Originally Posted by joelr The first big breakthrough I had with bodybuilding was when I changed my diet to ~1.5 grams protein per lb of lean bodyweight like you mentioned, lots of healthy fats - omega 3, 6, 9, olive oil etc... 60% complex carbs and spread out over 6 daily meals. Also 1/2 -1 gallon of water daily.
That got me from being stuck at around 190 to around 215 without too much fat gain.
The 2nd big leap was from cycling on and off of (legal) pro-hormones sold at supplement shops, 1AD, 4AD etc. That made a HUGE difference.
The original prohormones were banned but there are all sorts of new products. I have no idea of how safe or effective they are as I haven't paid attention to the supplement market in a few years. |
How long did it take you to go from 190 to 215?
how much size did the prohormones give you and did you get any side effects?
what rep range do you use 6 - 8, or 8 - 12.? or higher reps 20 plus
at the mo, i am 175 but i want to get to about 240. skip la cour, ade rai, tito raymond size and i am willing to eat 6 - 8000 cals a day if thats what it takes. i have a friend who went from 183 - 237 from eating huge meals 8 times daily for about a year. i no alot of people on this site are vegans and rawists but i need all the meat and whey i can to acheive my goal. i am still yet to see a massive (not just ripped) vegan bodybuilder. my definition of massive will be natural musclemania show and upwards
a guy on the internet called doggcrapp has drummed it into me that the fastest growing bodybuilders are doing 2g protein per pound and an immense amount of calories. but he has his clients do carb cutoffs after 6 and cardio 6 days a week. he is well known for putting a minimum of 25 - 30lbs of lean tissue on his clients annually. if you get a chance look for an article called cycle for pennies.then go to a website intensemuscle.com
ps what does the term train with intensity mean to you? do you blast it all the time or 12 wks at a time
do you beleive that the strongest bodybuilders are the biggest?