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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot  After the baby is born, from a social perspective, the most important question is no longer about whether it is the man's decision or the woman's decision. The most important question is about the welfare of the child. |
It's ok to kill a child, but if the mother doesn't get a bunch of money that she doesn't even have to spend on the child, then that would be wrong?
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot It is incorrect to suggest that men have no choice in the matter. Men do have a choice in the matter. KNOWING that a woman has the right to carry a pregnancy to term or not, and KNOWING that a woman may decide to carry the pregnancy to term whether the man agrees or not, the man's choice is whether to have sex with the woman in the first place, or not.
Simple as that. |
Congartulations. You just argued your viewpoint with a pro-life arguement.
Interchange the words man and woman in that last paragraph, and you'll recognize the arguement as an age old pro-life arguement.
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Originally Posted by ns123 ALG - I love the way you write. Yes, we can all lament that the law is unfair... but men KNOW that the law is currently this way and can make decisions accordingly.
So... as a man, you KNOW if the woman become pregnant, you have no say in the matter and you must pay for the rest of your life. You KNOW she might be tricking you to have your baby... so um... that kind of helps you in deciding whether you will sleep with her, no? |
So if the law were that women couldn't have abortions, they could make the same adjustements. That's the fun part of this arguement, every arguement I've ever heard about this (a guy choosing to support the child) can be turned right back around and used on abortion as well. I like it so much because it makes pro-choice people use pro-life arguements to support their view.
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Originally Posted by ns123 This is probably why men don't marry as much as they used to any more. And probably also why men don't commit to women any more. sigh. |
Watch the generalizations toward a specific gender. In my experience, men are much more likely to commit than women. I know that's not "true," but it appears true from my point of view.
It's most likely that neither sex is willing to commit anymore, because commitment is frowned upon. And that's because divorces are so common.