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Steve supports vegan/vegetarian because it is the single biggest impact on our environment as individuals

Sounds like you mean that he thinks it is the biggest impact on our environment as individuals. Unfortunately for the vegetarian stance, the studies supporting this theory are not too complete, or actually conclude that a more balanced diet unbiased in vegetables or meat is even better than 100% vegetarians.

It is also unquantifiable, unfortunately. It is hard to estimate the true impact everybody going vegetarian would have or not have towards our relationship with the environment. Just now the meat industry is sure bad. However, who's to estimate that the vegetables one wouldn't become an even bigger problem if we tripled it due to our efforts to stop meat under the "help the environment" flag.

As of now, doing that change simply makes no difference whatsoever. Anyway. No meat factory is going to stop just because you stop eating meat. A good question is what happens if everybody stops doing so, but it is really hard to truly estimate, and it is also meaningless, it is not more than a prisoner's paradox.

There's actually quite a bit of proof out there that our bodies handle meat very poorly compared to lions.

you mean we aren't as meat-specialized as lions? But who cares? It is still in our biology to eat meat.

The simple facts of the matter are:
1) Producing meat consumes FAR more resources than producing crops.
2) Producing meat creates FAR more waste than producing crops.
3) Producing meat takes up FAR more space than producing crops.

You probably mean "slightly", instead of FAR. Or you should probably just remove your PoV and just use the plain 'more' word. Of course, there are studies considering that you can raise animals on land of less quality than the ones used for crops show that a more balanced diet different to the vegan and the average meat diet that plagues the occidental culture would actually be better than the environment than a fully vegan diet...

IMHO crops just use less resources because we don't need to fill everything with crops thanks to meat based products, and don't forget fish. There are country's that live completely on sea food, where are they going to place their crops?

We would need a much LOWER production of crops if everyone went vegetarian, because we would free up the 80% of our crops that livestock currently consume.

You mean the low quality land that can currently only grow nutritionless grass? How exciting.

The land quality for an average working vegetarian diet needs something better than the thing in which grass grows...

The closer to a raw vegan diet you have, the better for the environment

Humans aren't herbivores. We are omnivores, our body is made to get nutrition from many places. Perhaps the lions example was bad. I don't think much people complains about bears eating fish and small rodents. Chimps eat insects and small mammals as well, I don't think we have many people lecturing them about how they should eat only fruit.

Everybody changing their diet is not gonna do squat. Sorry . Real solutions involve dealing with over population. The human diet was not causing global warming back in 1800, and vegans weren't that popular then.

Just let me more of a cynical, there is little proof that reducing the emissions NOW could actually reverse the problem. There is a lot of work into finding ways to reduce the CO2 emissions, but there is really not an actual plan to stop global warming. Just reducing the CO2 emissions may not be that helpful. There are only studies of the imagined improvement in CO2 emissions following unrealistic assumptions like "what if people stopped eating meat completely". But we have no plan at all on how to really handle the problem. People thinking that they could just stop eating meat or some other silly change will do squat are part of the problem, not the solution.

By the time a significant amount of humans switchto a raw food diet, it would be so late that I hope global warming gets solved before by a more effective solution ( like decreasing the world population by 75% (I think a disease or war would be helpful there) if global warming is not stopped before then I guess there wouldn't be much hope left.

Anyway, I got to go, I am gonna have dinner, meatballs and rice. I know I should be feeling guilty for that, but hey, you own a computer, I wonder if you feel guilty for using a computer on trivial things such as arguing in the internet considering all the incredibly bad environmental and social cost of a personal computer .


PS: A lot of the current studies deal with the effect of cows mainly. I think that the problem may not be with the meat eating thing but with the animal we chose. A lot of humans feed on rats right now (unknowingly though) I think maybe we just need to change the animal being eaten and the way / amounts of which we eat it. Fish don't cause as much CO2 related issues as cows (not to mention they are very healthy). How about insects?