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Originally Posted by AAMM77  My objective is to find the cleanest, simplest, straightest path, as opposed to the one where I indulge in duality for a longer amount of time. If I assign too much value to the dream then I’ll keep on dreaming longer and I'm don't really want to; the best stuff in the dream is a pale joke relative to oneness. There are many paths with various lengths, but the destination is the same. Peace. |
How do you know that Oneness is so great? You are human, and caught within the same duality as are we all. Your ego has never experienced Oneness, so in truth, you are trying to compare apples with an orange you have only heard tales about but never tasted.
How do you know that Duality is not the more preferable state of being? You speak as if you've already been there, but you are only a human whose particular choice of books and study has led him to one conclusion, whereas my choice of books and study has led me to another.
Your concept is no more true than is mine. However, mine does have the advantage of offering PURPOSE to the Universe, whereas yours does not. You do not have to use the word "mistake." I did not quote you on that. But you INFER that Spacetime is a mistake when you talk about your so-called "correction" that must eventually be made.
You also fail to address my quite valid point that nullifies your belief that we are insubstantial dreams that will be quickly forgotten because we never really existed in the first place. This is bilgewater of the highest order. Again, I state quite vehemently that our current awareness/memory of our personal human experience negates that possibility completely.
Since, as you say, this Oneness that you claim is the only real thing that exists EXISTS outside of Spacetime, and that everything that we experience has already happened, then we must BE memory that is NOT forgotten by the Oneness. At least in your concept of that being. Otherwise, we would all simply be continuing to experience the Oneness as we were before the duality was created and this discussion was never imprinted on any memory anywhere.
You see, what you claim seems to leave out one very important factor, and that is that for your theory to have any legs, the Oneness that you imagine does not have any CHOICE in the matter as to whether the duality is remembered or not. Once again, we have another human POE putting further limits on God.
The God of your imagining is not that different from the God of Abraham, in that Abraham's God needed but to snap His fingers and say "Let there be..." this or that, and this or that would come into being, leaving the details for... who to figure out? Your Oneness god is even LESS than that god for your god creates Spacetime without even being conscious of His actions within a dream!
I look around and see the complexity, the intracasy, the beauty of physical creation, and can only laugh at the thought that the Universe is actually a renegade projection of the Mind of God.
If you want the "cleanest, simplest, straightest path" back to Oneness, then, well, good luck with that. For that to happen, you're going to have to convince AT LEAST six billion other renegade splinters of yourself that they are all meaningless phantom projections, and that their current state of awareness has absolutely zero meaning or purpose. Tough mission. Not to mention, you're going to have to get that many souls to wrap their puny human minds around ALGEBRA in order to understand how your math proves that we don't really exist. Mission: Impossible. Most people hate math.
If you were smart about speeding things up, you would preach a much more appealing concept -- like mine, for instance. Sure, we may be deluded by the carrot of PURPOSE and MEANING to existence, but so what? If what you say is true, this is all a fiction anyway, so why shouldn't you preach a fiction if it gets you what you want in a more timely manner? I'll wager dollars to doughnuts that YOUR concept will only delay our return to Nirvana as long as is possible.
All the best....
Albert Einstein