Originally Posted by joelr
And for gosh sakes YES THOUGHTS DO CREATE REALITY!!!!
A simple blanket statement like that is 100% provable with hard science.
I'm sorry, but it's not written in stone.
Many teachings/ theories suggest that consciousness creates reality. So which is it - consciousness or thoughts?
Measuring (observing) a quantum object supposedly forces it to collapse from a waveform into one position. This collapse, according to quantum mechanics dogma, is what makes objects "real".
So where did the quantum object come from? Surely, it must have already been there for you to observe/measure it? If it existed prior to your observation, then you did not create it. Hence, there must be something else, further back, beyond what you consider to be 'real'.
Our 'reality' isn’t the physical structure of the universe, but, perhaps just an information encoding imposed upon it. An analogy of fundamental reality may be that it is like a co-axial cable, and our reality just a cable channel transmitted on it. You can add as many channels as you like, with each channel thinking it’s the 'real' thing, when in fact, it's not. Or, to put it another way, whatever we think reality is, is just our interpretation or perception of it.
That 'it' we are attempting to interpret is reality. But, perhaps, we can never truly, fully grasp it. The act of observing means we are just creating another view of reality, perhaps a more penetrating view, but not the reality itself.
Also, note new developments in investigating 'collapse reversal':
"Collapse reversal" suggests that we can no longer assume that measurements alone create reality. It was back in 2006 that physicist Andrew Jordan, at the University of Rochester, together with Alexander Korotkov, at the University of California, Riverside, first mooted the possibility of collapse reversal. it is possible to take a "weak" measurement of a quantum particle, triggering a partial collapse. Katz then "undid the damage," altering certain properties of the particle and performing the same weak measurement again. The particle was returned to its original quantum state just as if no measurement had ever been taken. (source provided on request).