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Old 07-02-2009, 05:44 PM   #229 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Angela View Post
I can see why the idea of subjective reality could be upsetting to people who use only the objective reality lens.
Indeed. I can also see why SR is so comforting to many people who feel that OR leaves them out of control of their life (it doesn't).

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That's an uncomfortable place to be.
I think one reason it can be uncomfortable is the mistaken idea that Science = OR. Some are afraid that if everyone believed in SR, then scientific advances would not be made. I don't see any evidence to support this belief.

Like I've said before, either way I see SR and OR people eating food, taking showers, working at jobs, using gravity, etc. So their actions are similar, which leads me to believe that deep deep down, at their core, they share many common beliefs.

One question we could ask is which is more honest? I guess it depends on how you define honesty. This is one way I define it: if an OR person says he can't do something and doesn't do it, he was being honest. If an SR person says he can do something and doesn't do it, then he may be dishonest.

In short, I have more respect and trust for people who align their actions with their words. This works for me. I like to know people by their fruit and I think that's fair.

I think this is why many ORs feel that SRs are intellectually dishonest. They see a SR claiming they can make a million dollars manifest out of thin air instantly, but then they don't do it. So the OR asks, "Why tell me you can do something if you're not willing to show me?" It's like the kid at the baseball park who claims he can run faster than you. So you say, "Oh yeah? Let's have a race!" And then the kid goes, "Ummm actually I need to go home now."

Nobody likes to be lied to. And nobody likes to be called a liar, because nobody likes to be lied to. Angela demonstrated this when Kanzeon implied she was lying. She did not seem to like that at all. So I think that's how some ORs see SRs, particularly when SRs don't "backup" their claims with actions. Some ORs see SRs as liars. I believe the word "cop-outs" was used earlier. And of course, this goes both ways. If an OR makes a claim, he should be able to show it.
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