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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot  Tell me one thing in reality that has existed without your consciousness.
You can't. If you can name such a thing, it is already within your consciousness.
There is therefore absolutely no evidence that anything can exist without your consciousness. |
OK, how about all the things that are around you right now? I haven't a clue what they are. I am not conscious of them. But there are things around you, right now. Isn't there?
When I was at school, I learned a lot of history and facts from books. I wasn't conscious of that information till I read about it. Yet, the information already existed - in books and in my teacher's head. I didn't just make it up, off the hoof.
You have already said that the conscious mind is just the tip of the iceberg. So, by your own admission, we don't know much about what is going on in the subconscious mind. So, how do you really know what consciousness is? And, even if you give me an acceptable definition, how do you then know that we actually 'create' everything within consciousness.
It doesn't necessarily follow that if everything does exist in consciousness, it means that we created it through our thoughts and beliefs. Aren't you, in fact, contradicting yourself by accepting all that as LoA gospel truth, while at the same time stating that reality is so very rich and complex and that consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg and that we don't know the half of it?