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Old 01-31-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AAMM77 View Post
When everything is going good and we’re having fun, the scenic route seems fine. But in this dualistic universe, the crap inevitably hits the fan one way or another: we get our heads chopped off, diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease, you name it. And when the crap hits the fan, the scenic route doesn’t look as scenic as it did when we were having fun.
Ah, but you forget your true reality. You are not Alex. You are the OUC. You are The Player in the game called "Human Life." The OUC has infinite FUN because He knows that all of the crap hitting the fan is only an illusion, and that it exists in reality only as a necessary element of The Game to make for a more interesting, challenging, and rewarding experience. You should read Steve's article about life from a gamer's perspective.

As a supposedly "enlightened" avatar, you should already know this. I wonder if perhaps you formulated your Duality Universe As Error" theory as an answer to the age-old question "Why do bad things happen to good people?" I can see how your belief that the entire objective universe is nothing more than an "undigested bit of beef" might answer that question for you. You see yourself as the OUC, trapped for aeons within this delusion of multiplicity that you cannot awaken from until each one of your trillions of "splinter" selves confronts their fear of oblivion and takes the leap of faith required to solve your equation and finally end your nightmare.

And that the only reason we don't is because we fear the equation will lead to true oblivion, so we perpetuate the nightmare out of some sort of spiritual survival instinct.

Well, I believe in Oneness, and I can even embrace the idea of someday awakening to that realization and returning to the oneness state of being again.

What I cannot swallow is that there is absolutely no value to all of this shared experience that our multiple selves have stored up. If there is such a thing as "blasphemy," surely it is the concept of wasting one's life. Yet you seem to believe that every life that was "lived" within this duality universe is/was such a waste that not a nanosecond of any of it is worth of committing to memory.

Your theory continues to lose logic. Your theory wants to have its cake and eat it, too. You cannot claim that existence is meaningless by boiling it down to a clever algebra equation and write it off as God's "mistake" that requires a "correction" with one breath, and then claim that oneness is "true love" in the next.

Shaking off all of the memories and experience of this dualistic existence is not an act of Love. It is an act of Indifference, which, BTW, is the exact OPPOSITE of Love; not Hate, as many believe.

I can no more accept your theory of the OUC being an indifferent, stagnant, delusional entity trapped in a nightmare than I can accept a God that has a wrathful and sadistic nature. Neither are possible in my mind for the simple reason that neither version is anywhere near my own personal level of enlightenment.

If we are all in truth but focus points of the OUC, then the OUC values my life and the memory of same simply because I value it. The OUC indeed wishes to become MORE than what He is because I wish that for myself. He is Me, and because I am logical, so is He.

It is entirerly ILLOGICAL for all of this to be nothing more than a meaningless, forgettable nightmare of the OUC. Our universe is a purposeful one because it's intended to be just that. It cannot be a "nightmare" because I'm in no real hurry to awaken from it. And not because I'm afraid to "die." Life is full of triumphs and tragedies, fun and danger; but it's truly a whole lot of fun. This is an exciting place to be, not to mention an exquisite work of beauty. I've had nightmares, and I know when I'm in one. I also know how to get out of one.

Finally, if all this is to be forgotten -- or already has been, as you point out, then why are we still here? If we're all this Oneness who's already awakened "outside of spacetime" from this nightmare, and already forgotten it, then we already are oblivion and should already be experiencing oneness and nirvana.

But we DO have memory of this existence, so either it's still an ongoing thing, or we are existing as MEMORY within the OUC who is "reliving" these experiences again.

The very fact that YOU and I are currently experiencing ourselves PROVES that we are not and/or will not be "forgotten" as you claim.

Unless you're one of those people who claim they never dream. Then perhaps I can see how you might believe what you say.

Best...

~ RS
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