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Old 06-30-2009, 01:11 PM   #146 (permalink)
Cantando
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot View Post
Well, if you want to really bring science into the picture, and examine reality at the deepest level that science can take us - here's a summary.

The entire universe is just mostly empty space, together with the same few kinds of subatomic particles rapidly blinking in and out of existence. Thus "you" are essentially the same as "cheddar cheese", or the "moon", and the "chair" that you are "sitting" on.

That isn't necessarily a very meaningful answer. But it is the most accurate picture that science can currently give you.
Well, I agree with that.

It is the arrangement of the constituent particles in a certain way that makes things different, as you well know (being a bit of an alchemist!). Base metal can be turned into gold. It's just a matter of rearranging the molecules into the correct, gold-like pattern! So, we are not actually creating anything - just re-arranging stuff. And, the space in between the particles is important as well, as it affects their properties and bonding powers.

However, does my believing that the moon is made of cheese then cause the moon to rearrange its constituent particles into a cheesy-form pattern?

I am not saying that it is not scientifically possible to change one thing into another, once we have learned how to control energy. But, do you honestly think that a belief can do that?

I note the earlier mention of some people being able to change the colour of their eyes. I think that it is possible, but I don't think it's got anything to do with belief. They have learned to control it somehow. It's just a few steps further than being able to control your breathing, for example. You don't have to 'believe' you can stop breathing. You just do it.

The next step on is being able to control your heartbeat. Lots of people can make their heart slow down or stop. Belief doesn't really come into it, well not in the LoA sense, anyway. Some people are just better than others at overriding the controlling impulses of their nervous system.

I agree that reality is very rich and complex and there is still a lot left to learn, but none of your arguments, or the examples you cite, indicate that science is actually moving towards the idea that we create absolutely everything in our own reality, the very idea on which LoA is based.

At best, there is some tentative proof that some people can cause an effect on some things using energy directed from their brains.
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