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Old 06-29-2009, 07:11 PM   #86 (permalink)
Kanzeon
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You basically answered this yourself. If I am God and have unlimited power, surely I can develop a way for me to "hide" this information from myself and take up the role of one person.
Yes, this is the crux of the absurdity of his position. If there is some undifferentiated consciousness that I can perceive when I (somehow) surrender the illusion of self, then "I" am not "God." The notion of "God" and "I" are mutually exclusive. So, the notion that "I" can control my environment by not being "I" is incoherent.

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As a human, I know I can do this in my own dreams. I can choose to be this character or that character. It's pretty simple. So it seems likely to me that God could do this as well.
On what basis is this logical? Dreams are generally thought to be manifestations of the subconscious. I can say: just as I can write a story, so God could write a story. How is this a good analogy?

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He can wish me out of his own existence.
Not effectively. If you want to stalk Steve and break into his house, you can, no matter how much he wishes you didn't or believes you won't.

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He can also change (what I call) the outer reality. For example, he published a book, and when I walk into the bookstore and happen to notice it, he has changed MY reality as well.
He hasn't changed your reality. He communicated with you. That's all.

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Subjective reality articles can be confusing at times because the author may switch from an objective-speak to subjective-speak, sometimes even in the same sentence.
Where you say "confusing" I say "incoherent." If there is no self, there is no room for subject-object talk. The subject cannot exist without the object. Either both exist, or neither does.

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For example, if someone says "you don't exist," what they might really mean is that the whole concept of "you" is an illusion. They don't literally mean you don't exist.
And it's their burden to speak clearly.

Saying that reality is congruent with your beliefs, in a literal sense, is definitionally insane. That is different than saying that consciousness and matter interact in some manner or that God exists and can perform miracles or that there is a supernatural realm of some kind that is some way responsive to human desires.
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