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Old 06-29-2009, 05:11 PM   #83 (permalink)
Kanzeon
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I don't think so.

If I recall correctly, Steve says that all of us exist and we are all one. We're all part of the same thing.

This is TOTALLY different than saying "I exist, but you don't."
Steve shifts perspectives in his dialogues on Subjective reality.

He most emphatically says that other people are projections.

He also says that the self doesn't exist, and that we are all part of one undifferentiated consciousness.

That, roughly, is similar to the view, in Hindu philosophy, that everything is God, and that God is playing hide and seek with himself by dressing up as various selves.

Any serious religious or philosophical confrontation of the nature of the self deals with the intractibility of the problem. If there is no self, then how is it that I can only see with world through my physical eyes, which are in a different corner of the room than your eyes? We can talk about how you and I are one, but I still feel the pain of my body, not yours. How can the physical self be transcended?

Steve doesn't seem to bother much with this question. Instead, he simply moves on, and starts positing the self again:

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Change your beliefs, and then watch the physical universe itself change to become congruent with them.
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The physical universe, including time and space, can only manifest in a manner that is congruent with your beliefs.
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Science and history, past and future, and all your memories exist within your consciousness. You manifested them. If you believe it can’t be true, then it can’t.
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Whatever you believe to be universal law, the physical universe (including your body) must obey. You cannot break any law which you “know” to be true. But you can change what you know to be true once you begin to recognize that you are consciousness itself, not merely a body-mind in a physical universe.
But, if the self doesn't exist, who is doing this believing? Why should the rest of the universe respond to the ideas belonging to an illusion? In the Hindu myth, at some point the game is over, and the illusion ceases: but the individual actors cannot change the rules, as long as they behave as actors.

And the natural, inevitable conclusion of these statements is that he exists, and you don't. He can wish or believe you out of existence.
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