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Actually I should have thought of the lemonade diet when she said that she was addicted to flavors. I guess that is why so many like the lemonade diet. But I was just thinking about the pure water fast. But the lemonade diet is a viable alternative. I personally prefer the pure water fast. It has to do with what I said about Ben Franklin.

On the pure water fast (I have an R/O water purifier), you spend nothing on food. So you save a lot of money. The lemons and maple syrup can be costly but some who will never do the water fast will be willing to just drink lemonade. Also on the water fast, you save lots of time-- more than if you have to buy lemons and make lemonade.

I guess that you meant that I was a bigot who was prejudiced against Muslims. Bigot is "one who obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his opinions and prejudices." That sounds like me and most people including the people in the presidential debates. Also the idea of prejudice is about things that people have no control of like the color their skin or where they are born. Whereas being a Christian or a Muslim is from people making a conscious (or unconscious) choice.

So can you say that someone is a bigot who is prejudiced against child rapists? If you could say that, then it would be true with many people. But I do not think that the word is intended for people making a choice. Although it is controversial with gay people since they say that they are born that way and it is not a choice. But others say that it is a choice they make so they are not prejudiced to hate gays just like they are not prejudiced to hate child molesters.

As far as the example about Christians, that is not a negative thing to say that they are devoted to God and not devoted to the world or their body. I was saying it objectively. This is what they say on the the Christian TV. I think I explained that their reasons for fasting was not for health but (or did I put this on another thread) was for 1) something to do if you do not know what to do and are looking for an answer (which includes who to vote for), 2) if you are having money problems and you want to help that or 3) you feel bad about something you did and want to forgive yourself.

As far as what I said about the Muslims, I got that from Dr Shelton's writings. There are probably some Muslims who do not eat like pigs and drink lots of alcohol at night like Dr Shelton said. As far as prejudice, I make generalizations about groups of people but know that there are good and bad in all groups.

You can look up all the terrible things that I have said about MDs on this forum but I like MDs like Gabriel Cousins, Joel Fuhrman and Andrew Weil. But as a group.... On another thread I tell how in the late 1800s the MDs main way of treating people was from bleeding or bloodletting killing many people. Have you ever read any of Dr Shelton's books? I have read almost all of his writings and get this stuff from him, like with Dr Tanner. I also read Dr Fuhrman's book about fasting and many MDs consider him the country's expert on fasting.

On a thread about the 5 elements, I put up stuff about the bloodletting that I got from Dr Shelton. But maybe he got it wrong. So I also put up a link to Wikipedia showing that he was right. Also I found that stuff on the NY Times to make sure that Dr Shelton was not just fabricating it.

If you look at the threads that I have started, then you can see that I am prejudiced against stupid people. Also people who do not think for themselves or just blindly follow a doctrine. I read a book about the different groups of Christians battling it out after Jesus died and before the New Testament was written.

Also I read a book about one man (a minister) in NY who shaped the way that most Christians today think about their religion (he created the evangelical approach). "We know you are given to vast, foolish blanket statement overgeneralizations such as 'Christians do not appreciate the health benefits gained in a fast' and 'Muslims fast during the daylight hours and then eat like pigs when the sun goes down'. These three points are inarguable as you have provided multiple examples of each."

Apparently the statement I made about the Christians comes from the ones that I hear on Christian TV but it does not apply to all since you are a Christian. The biggest reason that there have been so many cases of children being raped comes from people having a problem facing the issue or even thinking about it. They try hard to pretend it does not exist. But it does exist.

"If you want to quote the Bible, you might want to first gain a better understanding of it." Maybe I am wrong, but shouldn't the words of Jesus come first and the interpretation of them come later. Also among the Protestants, do they not believe that it is up to each person to interpret the words themselves? Whereas among the Catholics, only the priests can interpret the bible and the people should just listen to the priests (even though many of them raped little children).

Oh, it could be that you are a Catholic. The Christian TV that I watch is all Protestant. Before World War II, the Catholics and Protestants were at war with each other and killing each other-- all in the name of religion. That is what I read in books and online. I was not there myself. Among many Protestant groups it is a terrible thing to tell someone what you interpret the bible to mean instead of letting them read the words of Jesus themselves.

You said "Jesus meant." So are you saying "do not read the words of Jesus yourself and try to understand them, but listen to my intepretation of them instead?" On my webpage about healing depression, you can see that I admire the Christian group Hallejulah Acres and thier 85% raw diet. It also tells about a minister curing his very severe depression along with many other problems like anemia and cancer. They are some brilliant Christians.

So here is where you ask that if they are so concerned about the exact percentage of raw foods in their diet and taking B-12 supplements, and other minor details, then don't they fast for health? They make no mention of fasting at all. None, whatsoever! I love the movie, The Jewel of the Nile. In it, the Sufis are the heroes and they are a sect of Muslims. But I guess the bad guys are also Muslims.