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Old 06-23-2009, 05:18 AM   #186 (permalink)
babuji
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Originally Posted by SupersecretIdentity View Post
I delved into pickup for a while (mostly RSD).
I really think the cause of this is the culture that you see on the PUA forums. Most of the guys there (case in point, Corey), are extremely dominant and aggressive with their opinions. Keep in mind, the PUA movement started in LA, and is primarily aimed at the club scene. The new guys tend to be indoctrinated by the confident, dominant, club guys, and emulate them. As a result, a lot of the really important self-actualization stuff gets buried under club-logistics. So, rather than focusing on how to really connect, guys are taught to be flashy, exciting, high energy, sexually aggressive, and focus on hooking up that night rather than have a longer, drawn out interaction.

As a result, guys like me who aren't into clubbing, get a lot of bad advice which doesn't translate well to a more laid back, non-party atmosphere. I had to stay away from the community for a while to pick apart the logistic, club advice from the really good stuff (how to be yourself, feel confident, express your value). I think most PUA communities will tend to have some form of logistics covering up the deeper things, because its harder to understand, integrate, and get results from self-actualization, whereas the surface level advice can have immediate results.
I think you'd enjoy learning from David Wygant. He's not a PUA and is turned off by the idea of bars / clubs as the ideal place to meet women and tray 'canned' lines. He actually advocates meeting people and starting conversations in everyday places... regardless if it's with men or women..

I'm much like you and would rather try to meet quality women in a non-party atmosphere, so I was impressed with David Wygant's approach.

Here's a blog entry that you might like: First Impressions | Dating Tips and Dating Advice by David Wygant

cheers..
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