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Originally Posted by Kanzeon  What imbalance? A man might rape a woman, eliminating her initial choice in the matter. A man can choose not to have sex with a woman he doesn't trust. If he has sex, he can use a condom.
So, the only man deprived of choice is the one unlucky guy who has a condom failure. That would be comprise, at most, 1% of pregnancies. Among that 1%, there will be a certain number of men that would plead for the woman to have an abortion, and the woman not listen. Generously, that's 1/4 of 1% of all pregnancies.
So, a miniscule percentage of fathers are penalized by this "imbalance." Of course, there is a greater victim: the child who lacks support, and a third victim, the taxpayers who will need to shoulder the burden on the child if the man does not. The father is the least of the three victims. Easy choice. |
A woman might also rape a man. Admittedly, the logistics are different, but it does happen.
Also, something that keeps coming up is trust. Sometimes, trust is misplaced. People aren't perfect judges of character.
You said there's a lot of misogyny in this thread. Perhaps that's your perception, and you're certainly entitled to interpret this how you want. I think you may want to step back and consider for a moment, though, that there are unequal standards when it comes to the law and social customs, among other things.
Men and women both get shafted in different ways. This thread does have a general focus on the ways in which men get shafted, though it does also mention some of the ways women do as well. However, women have typically been the ones with more disadvantages due to societal norms, though this is definitely getting better. I'm not going to say it's completely fixed, because I think we still have some work left in getting women's rights completely on par, but I think we've gotten a lot closer.
That said, that shouldn't deprive men of the right to stand up for ourselves when we do get the short end of the stick. Instead, we should work to even things out on all the issues. When men's rights suffer, we should fight to even them out. When women's rights suffer, we should fight to even them out. Basically, when anyone's rights suffer, it's up to us to find a way to fix the problem, because we're all human, and we're all in this together.
Also, not as a direct answer to the above post, but just as something else to contribute to the conversation, here's a couple of posts from Violent Acres that have some bearing on this whole discussion:
The Deadbeat Dad Myth and
Quick and Easy Child Support Reform.
I think you'll find they provide an interesting viewpoint, in some ways supporting what one side has been saying, and in some ways supporting the other. I think they are very good pieces though, and definitely bring something to the table.