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Originally Posted by James81 As for the original post, I've used this arguement countless times in abortion debates and it's so funny to watch the people who are die-hard pro-choice use very pro-life structured arguements to deflect this line of thinking. It's very amusing for me to watch because I would think that if you are pro-choice, you should be pro-choice all the way.
As for the title of the thread (which I entered this thread thinking it was about something very different), I think child support need some serious revamping. Here's how I would do it:
1. ALL cases of child support are only set up upon a completion of a paternity test. No ifs, ands, or buts. Any woman who wants to receive child support should comply with allowing a paternity test to be taken. There are far too many cases out there where a man who isn't the father is paying the support and that is just fraud in my book. So neutralize that by cutting it off at the source.
2. Child support money should NOT be just a paycheck handed over to the mother (or, from what I understand, it's like a debit card they get nowadays I think) to do with what she pleases. There should be very clearcut distinctions that the money is to be used in ways that benefit the child. So here's how it should be doled out:
A. A portion of the money will be automatically forwarded to either the woman's rent or house payment. It won't even pass through her fingers.
B. A portion of the money will be automatically forwarded to utility bills (phone, electric, etc.). Again, the money doesn't even pass through her fingers. These two things are things that most directly affect the child, so they should be a priority on the child support list.
C. Another portion of the money would be relegated to a savings account for college and education expenses. Money withdrawn from this account before they hit college would need receipts to show where the money was spent (so that they could assure it was being spent on educational expenses).
D. The rest of the money would be doled out to her in a similar fashion as WIC is structured. There are specific things (diapers, wipes, clothes, food, etc.) that are on the "approved" list (give it a LOT of flexibility....it doesn't have to be a certain brand and it doesn't have to be stringient....it just needs to be 100% assured that she is not buying beer, cigs, or drugs or crap like that with it). |
This would be a good solution, if the rest of the world had same the obvious issues you have with distrusting and wanting to control women. Scary stuff.
A man can always request a paternity test. Only someone with serious issues with women would proposed a "guilty until proven innocent" standard for all women.
Women are, in your worldview, either wards of men or wards of the state. None of them can be trusted to actually care for their children in an appropriate manner without micromanagement. You won't even trust a woman to pay her rent unless some man or some bureaucrat makes her do it. Again, guilty until proven innocent.
The misogyny in this thread is remarkable.